Forgive my ignorance...but I have a dumb question

[Slug]

I am doing a buttload of research and keep coming across the letters CBB. I know that CB is captive bred, and WC is wild caught, but what does CBB mean?

Like I said in my intro, I do not yet own a cham, but I am getting prepared to make the purchase. Today I should have everything I need except for the chameleon itself. Then comes the matter of installing it all.

Also, while I have your attention...how do I got about attaching vines to the inside of a reptibreeze cage without modifying it too much. I don't want huge holes where crickets or, ever worse, my chameleon can escape. This where I come off prepared, yet ignorant...I have almost all of the equipment, I just can't seem to find a definitive answer on how to install everything.

Please help.

Slug

 

[Wykd]

chameleon brass band?

Captive born and bred

Welcome to the fun!

I would get everything setup and how you want it and run thru the motions of misting etc... and monitor the temp/humidity during this dry run. That way you can modify as needed, and unless ur a pro you will most likely need to modify. It could be the lights, the branch positioning mister setup etc.. but changes made before the chameleon arrives are better than under the rush of stablizing a already stressed little cham from the move.

Vines/branches can be attached via thumb tacks into the screen and branch, plant ties from lowes/hd, hot glue gun, and or combo of any of the above. I use a mix of items depending on it being something that I may need to move such as a basking branch or vine that is out of the way and would never need to be moved even during cleaning etc... So you would have to judge for yourself as you set up the cage. Put stuff in step back and look for a while, then move things around ... rinse repeat.

I would put temp/hygro meters up near the basking area, mid tank and lower tank, this way you can monitor the temp in each area of the tank to make sure your within the ranges you need to be.
As for care of the cham, there are plenty of posts here on that.

 

[camimom]

CBB is pretty much the same thing as CB, i think it just mean captive bred and hatched..

as for attaching vines.. you can use zip ties, push pins.. similar things.


i use dowel rods for highways instead of vines, and i just cut the rod to the width of the cage.. and then i put it where i want, and push a push pin in th eend of the rod from the outside..


congrats on doing your research.. but beware.. these things are addicting!!

 

[Wykd]

oh yeah save urself some $$ no need to buy branches , you can get them from mother nature and clean them as covered on the site, or go get some long bamboo plant stakes from lowes/hd and cut to length, for great limbs at low price and a tropical look.

 

[Slug]

Thanks for the help! I will definitely do the thumb tack thing. That sounds perfect. It seems pretty easy to modify as I go too. Sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. I will be posting pics after I get things all set up. So far it looks like a depressing empty cage, but that will change soon.

Keep the suggestions coming!

 

[justjumpit621]

I get so confused too, but I think CB and CBB may be the same, but CH is captive hatched but bred in the wild.

 

[Olimpia]

CBB implies that the parents are also captive bred, as opposed to wild caught, if I'm not mistaken.

As for attaching vines, I am partial to some fishing line! You can get it in super strong weights (I have 50lb line so I can hang heavier plants as well), it's thin so it threads right through the screen without widening the mesh holes, and you can tie or wrap it however you like because it's clear.

 

[ibdragons]

That's good u are doing all this before u get ur cham.good work . I also use fishing line to tie my vines that way it doesn't damage ur screen. Also thin wooden dowels from home depot work great .It's good to use different thickness of vines and or dowels So their hands development a strong grip . Welcome to the forums.

 

[PantherEnvy]

Hey Slug. Another suggstion-Get a Quad or a Panther male.

 

[MitchA]

CBB implies that the parents are also captive bred, as opposed to wild caught, if I'm not mistaken.

As for attaching vines, I am partial to some fishing line! You can get it in super strong weights (I have 50lb line so I can hang heavier plants as well), it's thin so it threads right through the screen without widening the mesh holes, and you can tie or wrap it however you like because it's clear.

Fishing line is a great idea! I wish I thought of that!

About a year ago i had nothing and it fell down same day my first Cham came in... So I had to use whatever i could in a panic and i took initiative and used dental floss! Still going strong today

 

[Olimpia]

Fishing line is a great idea! I wish I thought of that!

About a year ago i had nothing and it fell down same day my first Cham came in... So I had to use whatever i could in a panic and i took initiative and used dental floss! Still going strong today

Lmao! Well, why not. Minty freshness! Same theory with the fishing line, except that it's clear so it's practically invisible.

 

[ibdragons]

Note to self next time read the thread before ,Olympia had already said fishing line

 

[Caleb1]

As stated above cbb stands for captive bred babies meaning the parents of the offspring also were captive bred specimens.

 

[Slug]

Update

I got my cage all set up! All I need now is to get my digital thermometer and hygrometer from Amazon and I will be ready to make my purchase...after I decide on what species, that is...

I went the thumb tack route and it seems to be pretty dang strong! I got some twisty bamboo stuff that looks really cool in with the Schefflera plant that I got at Walmart and put in a pot along with a few fake tropical plants from Hobby Lobby. (All plants were washed outside...then rained on for a while, so they should be pretty well free of pesticides.) If anyone thinks I need to go a step further with the washing, please let me know how, since I have never washed a plant before other than rinsing lettuce for making a salad.

I tried to get a good basking are setup towards the front of the cage and letting the back side be a cool spot.

You know what, I will just post some pics and let the experts on here tell what I am doing right or wrong.

 

[Slug]

Here is the cage!

Let me know what you think, be gentle.

1. Complete setup
2. Vines held together with plastic coated wire for support
3. Basking spot
4. Thumb tacks (Doubled to prevent twisting)
5. The Vine Highway

This is all able to be changed, just let me know what I need to do.

 

[camimom]

The cage looks great!!


I wouldnt change a thing.

 

[kaity]

CB = Captive Born

CBB = Captive Bred and Born.

CB = The eggs could have been harvested wild, incubated in captivity then hatched in captivity so Captive Born.

CBB = The parents where both bred on captivity then the female laid in captivity then they where hatched in captivity... Captive Bred and Born.

CB can also stand for Captive Bred... therefore CBB and CB meaning the same thing but if you see the same terms on the same site they are probably using it as captive born however CH = Captive Hatched is a much less confusing term for Captive Born/Captive Hatched.

 

[Slug]

Kaity - So much info! Thanks!

As far as the cage goes now, my one concern is that I don't have a strong enough basking light, it doesn't seem to be very bright, but that could just be me and my desire to see more of the inside of the cage when the light is on...

It is a Zilla Day Blue Light incandescent 75 Watt (what the lady at the pet store handed me, and I blindly trusted for some reason). For my UVB, I have a Zilla Compact Fluorescent Coil Bulb "Tropical Series 25" 13 Watts. Am I on the right track here or do I need to get different bulbs?

 

[Slug]

Update!

Ok, so I posted a new thread with much more info on my setup including links to the products I used during the setup. Please go check it out and let me know what you think, I am almost ready to purchase my cham!

The post is titled: Help Me Get Ready!

Thanks!

Slug

 

[BocaJan]

Your cham will love it but you are going to have trouble finding him. If you can make it just a bit less dense you might enjoy him a bit better. After all, you're going to want to view your new family member.