freerange pics?
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martyllian
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For free ranging.. how do you .. err.. contend with the poop? As in finding it, or keeping it off things that you do not want pooped on?
Titan
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Well in this setup its easy. Most the Chameleons I have seem to be creatures of habit. and they actually when set up with lots of room will crap as far from where they sleep as possible, usually they make sure it falls clear to the floor and they dont seem to want it hung up in their branches!
The branches you see going out in front of the window (pictured above) I put for reasons.
1) to allow them to catch some heat from the sun
2) they like to look outside
3) I put walkout branches in my setups as thats where they go out to hang one out and drop it to the floor.
4) This makes real easy clean up. I purchase those office clear plastic chair/carpet mats below the whole setup. also I have seen my Chameleons go to the restroom in the exact same spots almost always. and an extra catch container can be placed right below where the drop the excrete! I'll post a pic of the matts
I'm neat freek, and clean up as I see they went, but its really easy when you got them trained or they chose thier spot to most always usually go.
The branches you see going out in front of the window (pictured above) I put for reasons.
1) to allow them to catch some heat from the sun
2) they like to look outside
3) I put walkout branches in my setups as thats where they go out to hang one out and drop it to the floor.
4) This makes real easy clean up. I purchase those office clear plastic chair/carpet mats below the whole setup. also I have seen my Chameleons go to the restroom in the exact same spots almost always. and an extra catch container can be placed right below where the drop the excrete! I'll post a pic of the matts
I'm neat freek, and clean up as I see they went, but its really easy when you got them trained or they chose thier spot to most always usually go.
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jannb
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There's free range pictures in this thread: https://www.chameleonforums.com/who-else-keeping-their-13878/
Titan
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Well In that setup I have montaine Chams so UVB isnt so important. I'm setting up some plant linear tubes that will be hidden from veiw.
Misting I have a real ultra fine mist that adds some humidity and abit of dew on the leaves. I mostly use drippers placed well, and there is a fully 2 filtered "timed" rain system in there also. (its pretty sweet!) That has a nearly invisible catch and drain below it.
As for puting the bed outside,
Hmm why would I when I have a controled wilderness in the room.
Besides the Winters here are pretty harsh I think sleeping out there would kill me
Misting I have a real ultra fine mist that adds some humidity and abit of dew on the leaves. I mostly use drippers placed well, and there is a fully 2 filtered "timed" rain system in there also. (its pretty sweet!) That has a nearly invisible catch and drain below it.
As for puting the bed outside,
Hmm why would I when I have a controled wilderness in the room. Besides the Winters here are pretty harsh I think sleeping out there would kill me
luckykarma
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Depends on the Cham. Ours are all free range. Most stay in their trees. A couple will walk around to get to the next high place. Just be aware. We've never had any problems in 8 years.
chambabysitter1
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Do you free rangers cup feed or hand feed?
I want to move my guy free range, but right now I couldn't bear the thought of loose crickets and roaches. At this point he is not down with handfeeding, so perhaps I would have to post pone it until longer.
I want to move my guy free range, but right now I couldn't bear the thought of loose crickets and roaches. At this point he is not down with handfeeding, so perhaps I would have to post pone it until longer.
luckykarma
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Usually cup feed. Hand for fun.
Titan
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Yea, hand and cup feeding, most definitely. Once your Chams reach Adulthood and growing is done, your Chameleon should only be fed every 2 to 3 days,. Once you get to this point its easy for me cause they usually are ready to eat and gobble up what "they want" for then.
After that return anything they dont want back to the bug containers. and come back to it when feeding time arrives again. This way I never have any unwatched bugs sitting about!
After that return anything they dont want back to the bug containers. and come back to it when feeding time arrives again. This way I never have any unwatched bugs sitting about!
Titan
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Ok, I got to say this one more time, . Dont mind me but I, am no fan to Misting (drenching) Chameleons with water. So this is not a problem in free range.
There was a post about Chameleons gettin hydration through their skin about a week ago. and that summed it all up for MY position on Chameleon hydration.
I feel most here are misinterpreted to think you have to water your Chameleons cage and its body all day long and that is so uneeded!
Here is a Quote from that post Brad Ramsey Made and I completely agree with
Hope you dont mind this repost Brad?
My reply, then Brads Statement, and then My reply
Brad, excellent!
[Quote:] Originally Posted by Brad Ramsey
I don't think scales are designed to let water in as much as they are designed to keep water in.
Scalation has developed as amphibians evolved into reptiles in order to allow them to exist away from water.
exterior humidity effects all living creatures to some degree (notice the skin of people living in Fl vs. that of people living in Az)
But, if you are asking if they can drink through their skin ... the answer would be no.
A chameleon that is never misted or showered but receives adequate access to water it can drink (ie: per a dripper) will be just as hydrated as one that is sprayed or showered ... and probably a lot happier.
-Brad
. Dont mind me but I, am no fan to Misting (drenching) Chameleons with water. So this is not a problem in free range.There was a post about Chameleons gettin hydration through their skin about a week ago. and that summed it all up for MY position on Chameleon hydration.
I feel most here are misinterpreted to think you have to water your Chameleons cage and its body all day long and that is so uneeded!
Here is a Quote from that post Brad Ramsey Made and I completely agree with
Hope you dont mind this repost Brad?
My reply, then Brads Statement, and then My reply
Brad, excellent!
[Quote:] Originally Posted by Brad Ramsey
I don't think scales are designed to let water in as much as they are designed to keep water in.
Scalation has developed as amphibians evolved into reptiles in order to allow them to exist away from water.
exterior humidity effects all living creatures to some degree (notice the skin of people living in Fl vs. that of people living in Az)
But, if you are asking if they can drink through their skin ... the answer would be no.
A chameleon that is never misted or showered but receives adequate access to water it can drink (ie: per a dripper) will be just as hydrated as one that is sprayed or showered ... and probably a lot happier.
-Brad
(My Statement)
I live at 20% humidity, rarely water the exterior of my Chameleons, But do make sure the intake is very good (Drinking) and all my Chameleons Thrive really well here. No shedding problems or anything proving that high humidity is needed as long as they hydrate well internally!
Anyhow, that Thread is titled: Absorb water through skin, By the poster Laurie
Ok hydration is about getting water into your Chameleon not on the Chameleon. and thats the reality of it. With this said I have absolutly no water problems or water containment problems in my household, even with the low annual humidities here in Colorado. "Ill Post pictures all day of some of the Most Healthy good looking Chameleons out there". I own many montane species kept in these conditions. Also with 100% success rate on raising many, many baby Jacksons to adulthood. So honestly I do not stress at all about all the Water. I just make sure all my Chameleons are drinking well!
So to answer your Question: There is no water problem, no mold/mildew or nothing foul of the sorts.?
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Docility
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grr i hit ctr+r instead of t, and erased my entire post i wrote. in short humidity is needed to increase living environments. we are trying to simulate their natural environment. Higher humidity to a point will increase the O2 transfusion rate CO2 to O2 ect your normal respiration. It allows your cells to be more externally moist allowing your internal cells to retain more fluids, and that allows for a broader cell. if your nasal passage way is dry it will constrict cells. this makes it harder to breath, and harder to exchange your gases. try living in a dry climate then moving to a humid climate its normally easier to breathe with more humidity. thats why MD's recommend humidifiers when you are sick ect. there is a lot more to it than that, but its not worth going that in depth for again lol.
anyway if your system works dont fix it =)
anyway if your system works dont fix it =)
