good price for baby jackson's?

[alex arango]

whats a good price to sell baby jackson's chameleons? i have never sold any chams just bought at local pet stores. i bought my pair of jacksons for 85 a piece. i want to try n sell them on here and see how it goes but dont know how much they would go for, i was thinking around 30-40 bucs a piece? is that a good price? they are 2 days old and cant tell if there males or females. but they all look heathy and are very active.

 

[melonman]

You breed them or are they the ones you bought???
Pics would help

 

[alex arango]

we just started to breed our jacksons cham just had 9 babies, we also have 34 vield eggs that we recieved from our frend who also breeds. i will post couple pics right now

 

[DekuScrub]

captive bred chameleons are going to go for more than wild caught. if you paid $85 a peice for WC chams you paid WAY too much. but thats how petstores roll. if youre selling captive bred jacksons or captive born jacksons you can up the price a bit. $45 is reasonable for a CB jacksons. WC are readily available and generally cheap. CBs are less common and preferential due to the fact it minimizes health risks.

 

[DekuScrub]

ACTUALLLLY! theyre only worth $2 a piece and ill buy em all jk

 

[Solid Snake]

The one pictured is male.

They usually go for around $75, give or take $20.

They usually are not sold until after 3-4 months, as they may not survive past that point. (its common with jacksons to start dropping at that age. Not to scare you, but it does seem common.)

Generally a healthy sub-adult/adult will go for more than a baby.

Good luck.

 

[alex arango]

which picture is a male? and how can you tell wether its a female or male when there this little?

 

[alex arango]

whats the differance between captive bred and captive born?

 

[alex arango]

they are two differant chams i just picked up two random ones to take pics

 

[Solid Snake]

which picture is a male? and how can you tell wether its a female or male when there this little?

The second one. It has all three horns, all pointing forward.
Females may have all three horns, but generally do not, and the horns they do have, if any, tend to point up, not straight out.
First pic I cant tell.
That said, I am not an expert.

whats the differance between captive bred and captive born?

Captive bred, means they were mated in captivity, and the babies were born in captivity.

Captive born means they mated in the wild, then were collected to be sold, and gave birth in captivity.

they are two differant chams i just picked up two random ones to take pics

If you get side shots of all of them, it may be possible to sex them all.

 

[Solid Snake]

You can also tell from the base of the tail, thats with any chameleon. The first one looks female.

 

[DekuScrub]

whats the differance between captive bred and captive born?

if you have a WC specimen that you got pregnant captive born. id you mated them in captivity you can label that captive bred. if you have a pair of captive bred that bred then you can label that as captive bred CB or captive born and bred CBB

they both have hefty horns for 2 day olds but even still females will retain vestigial horns up until a few months of age

 

[Solid Snake]

if you have a WC specimen that you got pregnant captive born. id you mated them in captivity you can label that captive bred. if you have a pair of captive bred that bred then you can label that as captive bred CB or captive born and bred CBB

they both have hefty horns for 2 day olds but even still females will retain vestigial horns up until a few months of age

Can you clarify what you mean by that? The red bit...

 

[DekuScrub]

vestigial (vɛˈstɪdʒɪəl)

— adj
1. of, relating to, or being a vestige
2. (of certain organs or parts of organisms) having attained a simple structure and reduced size and function during the evolution of the species: the vestigial pelvic girdle of a snake

ves·tige
   [ves-tij] Show IPA
noun
1.
a mark, trace, or visible evidence of something that is no longer present or in existence: A few columns were the last vestiges of a Greek temple.
2.
a surviving evidence or remainder of some condition, practice, etc.: These superstitions are vestiges of an ancient religion.
3.
a very slight trace or amount of something: Not a vestige remains of the former elegance of the house.
4.
Biology . a degenerate or imperfectly developed organ or structure that has little or no utility, but that in an earlier stage of the individual or in preceding evolutionary forms of the organism performed a useful function.
5.
Archaic . a footprint; track.

just like you have nipples.

lol

i had a CB female jacksons whose sex was undetermined. in fact i was told she was a male. but as she grew her horns did not. and eventually became nonexistent nubs.

 

[Solid Snake]

I know what vestigial means

I guess I just dont see them as being that.

I guess you are right though, in that they likely decreased over time, since they did not have to "fight" like the males do.

Interesting...

 

[alex arango]

ok i see then mine are captive born. thanks

 

[DekuScrub]

well thats only based on the fact that i had purchased a male jacksons that turned out to be female.

ive never bred (in the process of) them so ive got no experience in sexing them but while theyre young they all seem to have the horns and it isnt untill they begin to grow you see the growth in the horns, or lack there of, that differentiates the sexes.

"the horns they do have, if any, tend to point up, not straight out." thanks for the tip. ill keep that in consideration when i sex mine!

 

[melonman]

What kind of jackson chams are they? ??

 

[alex arango]

xhantholophus

 

[kokom05lb]

ACTUALLLLY! theyre only worth $2 a piece and ill buy em all jk

Jeez if they are only $2 each I'll buy of them
JK