moogle73
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Well, its not really being used as an excuse more of a fact, that's how nature works. And you are merely proving my point in that, us putting them in a cage, out of their natural environment IS the unnatural thing to do.
You also seem to be interchanging "natural" with "healthy" or at least inferring that. Everything in nature is not healthy lol. That's why I laugh every time I go into a food store and see "all natural" plastered all over everything making gullible people think that well its "all natural" so it must be healthy. Go eat some fresh all natrual not processed Castor Bean's and well see how long you live... lol. Just because it has "natural" in its name does not instantly mean healthy.
now about the "parasites", thats a multi fold question, now if your talking about 1 specific chameleon out of the whole species, and that one chameleon is in your care, then obviously no, parasites are not in the best intrest of that chameleons health.
But if your talking about the health of the WHOLE SPECIES, and all of them in the wild, well then that's a debatable topic merely because parasites exist. If parasites never existed, then the introduction of them would be detrimental, especially at first. But due to the fact that parasites in general are heavily engrained and spread through vast number of species, its just another added element of "nature" and natural selection at its finest.
The parasites have every right to live as much as the next living organism, they are fighting and evolving to keep their nitch in the world. Just as chameleons are fighting and evolving to keep their nitch in the world. Because of the 2 of them (plus countless other predators etc) they are pushing each other to evolve in new ways, with new defensive mechanisms etc, which in turn is actually for the good and "better" of the species as a whole, not as an individual, but as a whole, making it more likely they will continue to succeed and not succumb to extinction. Without those parasites, and predators "killing" the less healthy and less fortunate individuals, and individuals with poor adaptations or mutation, then the species would never evolve, and eventually it would cause their downfall. So like I said, its highly debatable and could be discussed endlessly.
Well I can honestly say, Ill be the first one to tell you I could care less what you think is "foolish". Next time save your breath and time, as just reading your "foolish post" takes away time in my day lol. If you have something specific that is worth wile to add to a topic, then by all means say it, but to simply come on here and say "o well that post is foolish" is kind of shallow and just wastes everyone time, yours included, and add NOTHING to the original topic (kind of the whole point of forums lol).
Now about the subject matter, obviously this is no psychology forum, no one is discussing that, nor do I think anyone really wants to. But the fact of the matter is, some people instantly act emotional when seeing the true reality of nature, others see it more logical. Some people sit there and project their emotions onto the pray, feeling empathic for them, while others just see the reality of 1 subject needs to eat to sustain it self, the other subject is just part of the food chain, nothing more nothing less. Now obviously you can get much much deeper into the psychology of it all, but like I said, I don't think anyone here cares for that... I was just posting a pretty blatant obvious fact, some people view predator / prey situations differently than others, and doing so in broad terms. Which is why some were getting upset at the "graphic nature of the photo" while others were saying it was "ok" to post it.
Looks like this one LOL
Yup, back to one of my original statements, that the only thing "unnatural" about that first picture, is the fact that its in a cage
