*Graphic Warning* - His first house gecko

[deadhd5]

I am not a fan of this thread and you will never see me feed a lizard to my chameleons. I would suggest that you are asking for a backlash with a thread like this that is not appropriately titled (now it is) with a warning.

I would guess there are many members of this community that keep snakes, and are perfectly comfortable feeding other animals to your pets. There are others on here, like myself, who only keep chameleons and whose stomach turns at the idea of feeding a little mouse or lizard to a spider or snake. To each his/her own, but be sensitive to the difference in perspective.

The bottom line here for me is that this is not a very healthy thing to do to your chameleon and should be avoided. The reason I suspect it was done was for a certain "cool factor" that I find distasteful.

 

[SSimsswiSS]

Than I'm certain no one wants to see what's in my feeding cups.

On a lighter note, can't go wrong with the 3 B's of cooking: Butter, Beer , and Bacon.

 

[djfishygillz]

Not commenting on the content of the thread, however, this has got to be single worst defense of any behavior ever.

"It's natural!!!" They cried as they fed a gecko, bred and born in captivity underneath lights manufactured in a far away country, in a cage made of man-made materials, in a room in which the temperature and humidity are rigorously controlled by lots of knobs, switches and dials to their chameleon which was either raised very similarly to the scenario I painted above or was snatched up out of the wild, shipped in a box half-way across the continent in what I would presume to be some form of climate controlled ride, burning up gallons of fossil fuels in internal combustion engines to have said chameleon delivered to their very door.

*rolls eyes for eternity*

lol this is a little extreme

 

[juju]

Im guessing the title didnt have "Graphic Warning" at first?

Its kinda like people bitching about a radio or tv station. They dont have to watch or listen but they do and then they bitch

lol I agree

 

[Montium]

Somebody is always offended by something, however those that think feeding " the occasional pinkie " is a good idea should really re-think the hobby or look at some nutritional papers from this century.

 

[dlegare]

Lets hope everyone uses the same zeal in chastising the big (and little) box pet retailers who knowingly place chameleons specifically, and animals in general in such abhorred conditions as to almost definitely cause there demise or at least shorten there lives.

This site is a fabulous resource for chameleon care. Its full of highly motivated, intelligent individuals all working to wards the same goal, better care of a truly awesome animal.

If this posting offends you simply don't participate in it. I can assure you that the large wild chameleons eat a lizard or two on more than a rare occasion.

So in essence isn't this person providing a more balanced diet?

If you can't stomach watching a cham eat a small lizard don't feed it.

Some people feel the same about roaches.

And there are a lot of people who feel feeding Mantids to chams is a horrible thing.

Personally am I going out to look for feeder lizards for my cams. No. But I'm also not going to bash someone who does.

When I was a teenager I had an Iguana who developed a taste for mice. When I told other keepers of this they were aghast with shock. They all but promised me that an Iguana would suffer horrible health problems from eating such a thing. That female Iguana lived just shy of 17 years, and for 15 of those years she would get a nice fat mouse or two about every month.

She never had gout, never developed egg binding, no problems with MBD, and was the most vibrant green I've ever seen. And she had a very sweet disposition.

My vet believes she died of old age, and she did so in her sleep very peacefully.

Open minds.

 

[dlegare]

Somebody is always offended by something, however those that think feeding " the occasional pinkie " is a good idea should really re-think the hobby or look at some nutritional papers from this century.

Interestingly the mainstream nutritional data on pinkies was done on empty stomaches. Find one that is done on a pinky full of milk and it just might surprise you.

 

[Mmcbain1]

Great thread! I know some chams eat lizards in the wild. Its nice to see what everyones opinion is about this. What makes a lizard more important than a roach?

 

[deadhd5]

Well at the very least this thread started an interesting conversation on feeder ethics..

 

[Solid Snake]

Than I'm certain no one wants to see what's in my feeding cups.

On a lighter note, can't go wrong with the 3 B's of cooking: Butter, Beer , and Bacon.

Quail? I think its quail, or or beer...

 

[mattj]

Yet no one mentions the poor crickets.

What about them!!!!


So ridiculous to argue that one form of food is better than another. From a nutritional standpoint I get it, but ethics cmon. Circle of life.

 

[Cainschams]

What makes a lizard more important than a roach?

Thats a good question! Its not like everyone is feeding these lizards nothing but veggies.

 

[Solid Snake]

Than I'm certain no one wants to see what's in my feeding cups.

On a lighter note, can't go wrong with the 3 B's of cooking: Butter, Beer , and Bacon.

Veileds? ..........

 

[Cainschams]

Than I'm certain no one wants to see what's in my feeding cups.

On a lighter note, can't go wrong with the 3 B's of cooking: Butter, Beer , and Bacon.

Fetus fajitas?

 

[italian chameleon]

What makes a lizard more important than a roach?

the central nervous system i guess

 

[Jamall]

well it seems to of passed

 

[Mmcbain1]

Looks like a healthy one