Hello! CFs ,want you to meet Ike Miles sadly(RIP)

[Miles Horn]

Ike was my first chameleon, I went to utube and learned allot about cages and I prepared well for him. I bought him from petsmart where I saw that two of his horns were broken, they told me he was young and later the horns were going to grow normal size..So I took him and little Ike was fine except that he closed his eyes allot which i thought it was normal, but then I started to see that his kinda suck his eyes in and some bag of blood sort of thing popped out when he did it ... and saw something stuck in his mouth.So I rapidly took him to the vet and I was told he had mouth rot and he did not gave much hope because he said he had something else for some time. I was so depress that I still don't know what happen.
What causes mouth rot??

His color is not like other Jacksons ive seen, is the yellowish normal????

How could the horns break???I read they wont grow back

 

[ZEUUS]

I'm so sorry...

Just another example of pet stores not taking care of their "pets"

 

[Solid Snake]

Welcome to the forums, sorry its under these circumstances.
Thank you for sharing your story.
If you would like to know what happened, you can fill out our help form.
We can then take a look and see what might have happened.
Horns can break from shipping, or falling.

Here is the form if your interested.




Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.


Cage Info:

Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?


Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.


Pictures are helpful

Again, sorry about Ike Miles.

 

[Miles Horn]

Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - Jacson, Male, I wasent told his age, with me like month 1/2
Handling - I enjoy just to see them, my gf like two times week
Feeding - Crickets ? 5 daily, he did not eat them all. I gave them flunkers stuff
Supplements - repti cal no D3 added
Watering - habba mist, every hour for 30 seconds, yes i saw him drink
Fecal Description - brown and something white
Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? no
History - The horns and the eyes


Cage Info:

Cage Type - Screen, 18', 18', 36'

Lighting - He was under roof but outside and get natural sun
Temperature - 80 to 85in the day, 70 in the nigt
Humidity - 60% to 70% by misting
Plants - some vines, fake and an umbrella
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? No
Location - Puerto Rico-Tropical Island -US Territory


Current Problem, want to know what happen and have all help I can get to be a successful cham owner

 

[Solid Snake]

Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - Jacson, Male, I wasent told his age, with me like month 1/2He looks to be in the 8-12month range.
Handling - I enjoy just to see them, my gf like two times week
Feeding - Crickets ? 5 daily, he did not eat them all. I gave them flunkers stuff
Supplements - repti cal no D3 added
Watering - habba mist, every hour for 30 seconds, yes i saw him drink
Fecal Description - brown and something white
Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? no
History - The horns and the eyes


Cage Info:

Cage Type - Screen, 18', 18', 36'

Lighting - He was under roof but outside and get natural sun
Temperature - 80 to 85in the day, 70 in the nigt
Humidity - 60% to 70% by misting
Plants - some vines, fake and an umbrella
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? No
Location - Puerto Rico-Tropical Island -US Territory


Current Problem, want to know what happen and have all help I can get to be a successful cham owner

This was NOT your fault.
You could gutload the crickets with more nutritious things.
Sandrachameleon has the best info, you can read about it here:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/

Calcium shouldnt be given everyday for a jackson. One or two days a week. (Giving everyday for 1/2 month would not have caused the issue, or for him to die)
The chameleon likely had issues before you got him.
Im sorry this happened to you.

 

[Solid Snake]

Also, I think you would find this video informative, its from a forum member:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKTbUaOQ0aA&feature=g-all-u&context=G2b8d00bFAAAAAAAAKAA

 

[Miles Horn]

I read that when they are ill the color changes..??? I can tell the yellow color was because of this??

 

[Solid Snake]

He looks a bit yellow yes, but it doesnt look abnormal.
My girl went through a "yellow phase" where she was more yellowish like that.
To my knowledge it doesnt indicate anything and is normal.
His bright green actually indicates he is happy, or content.

 

[Miles Horn]

He looks a bit yellow yes, but it doesnt look abnormal.
My girl went through a "yellow phase" where she was more yellowish like that.
To my knowledge it doesnt indicate anything and is normal.
His bright green actually indicates he is happy, or content.

Thanks allot I liked his yellow color and Im sorry for Ike I didn't find this place earlier maybe he had hope for him, my GF bought me a veiled female from another pets store but this guy told me allot about veileds and female care so she wont die from egg bound and he told me about this site so ull be hearing from me now! ill present the veiled with some pictures for you guy to guide me and again thanx allot!

 

[laurie]

I really feel bad when petstores do what they did to you. I hope your veiled is healthy. We will all do what we can to help, this time will be better.

 

[Miles Horn]

I really feel bad when petstores do what they did to you. I hope your veiled is healthy. We will all do what we can to help, this time will be better.

There is Jills

She still runs from me! and is dark colored i guess she is getting use to the cage

 

[Miles Horn]

I will later ask you guys about the veiled care ! thanks again!

 

[Solid Snake]

I think you will find these helpful.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/

https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html

 

[millsamus]

There is Jills

She still runs from me! and is dark colored i guess she is getting use to the cage

Good luck with the veiled.... I have one also, a female and shes always nasty and hissy. Some people tell me veils are just this way especially females. Next time I am going panther or anything but Veiled. Captive bred for sure.

Sorry to hear about your Jacksons. Thanks for sharing your story.

 

[Benton1576]

Ive seen plenty of Jacksons, especially CB and around 2-3 months of age. From the looks of that pic, that Jacksons is not 1-2 months old, looks more like an adult to me with the size of the horns and body in comparison to your hand (unless your a toddler!). I would say its probably an imported cham, hence the borken horns and poor health.