help please.

gordonw21

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My cham MJ is acting weird this morning she keeps falling off of branches an the top of the cage an is very active she normally is more calm an slow but shes moving all over so any help would be nice
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Hi! Do you happen to have any pictures of her? Can you please fill out this form
https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/ and the good folks here will be able to get a better idea of what's going on :)

Depending on her age it's possible she has eggs and could be searching for a place to lay. She's maybe not old enough but do you have a laying bin set up for her?
 
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? veiled cham, female, i think shes almost a year old got her when she was like 3 months. but she did not grow much at all cuz i had her in a tank an just recently put her in the cage screen.
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? not very often maybe 3x a month.
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? i just buy medium crickets about half a dozen a day an just recently been feeding her mealworms by hand. an i dont gutload cuz the crickets just die over night somereason.
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? I dust with cal d3 once a week maybe cuz i dont have normal calcium. an i do the mutivitamins maybe once a week.
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? I hand mist 3-4 times a day. an dont really see her drink much now shes in the new cage.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? uhm i would have to say dark brow or black the poop then white for the pee. seems pretty normal. an has never been to a vet.
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. was just switched from a tank to a cage.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? cage now an 36 by 18 by 18
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? got ubv an basking light just a heat bulb for reptiles like 50 wat for heat light an a ubv for the 20 inch ubv light lol
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? 73 at bottom. 80-85 basking spot i use a acurite temp gauge thing.
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? same tool an its about 45 at the bottom an i mist an water plant to keep it up.
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? yes 1 an i think its a ficcus.
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?its in livingroom no fans or vents its up high bout 3feet off ground. top of cage is bout 6 foot high.
Location - Where are you geographically located? michigan

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about. she is falling alot an moving alot not normal for her. she normally is hiding with her eyes closed or eating or basking like a normal cham does lol please help

more pics
https://www.chameleonforums.com/chameleon-one-eye-closed-87828/
 
Ok, I see a few things that could be improved :)

Firstly on your feeding, it's good to have a variety of well gutloaded feeders to offer your girl. Some good ones are roaches, silkworms and locusts, the list goes on! You should check out Sandrachameleon's blog on gutload https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/ I'd also like to know how many bugs you feed her as this can play a part in egg production.

You really need to use plain calcium at every feeding. Multivitamin and calcium d3 are for using twice a month, too much of either can have bad effects, but you need to use the d3 to prevent things like mbd. It's really important to give your girl plenty of calcium, again because off egg production-she needs it to form the eggs.

What percentage is your UVB tube and what's your lights on time? This forum recommends 12 hours on, 12 hours off :)

I think 85 is a bit high (not very) but you don't want it too hot for the girls. If you keep her at 80 this will help to stop her from producing large clutches, the smaller the better for her!

Another great blog to look at is this one by jannb https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html its all about keeping females and egg laying.

Since she's a year old it's definately possible she has eggs. I'm not saying this is definately the problem but it's something to think about :)
 
She look slike she has an eye infection.

the puffiness around her eye.. she needs a vet visit.
 
oh her eye is fine now gave her like 3 showers an it came back to normal so got that all taken care of but thank you.
 
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right after the last one she just fell off the branch into the bush. its like she doesnt have a hard grip no more. anyone have any ideas?
 
before today she was fine like today on the bush leafs an stuff she was just hanging there upside down an when ever i go close she freaks out more an just falls.
 
no way an i wanted to just say i have a dog an a cat an the cat jumps up next to the cage an just watches should i put like paper to cover the sides of the cage? or some kind of wall?
 
alright so not getting the calcium everyfeeding isnt causing the issue? an could that be why shes not growing? an since shes almost a year what should i be looking for for eggs lol? will she get fat or see the eggs in her or what signs r there?
 
YOU arent giving her calcium every feeding? you need to be. it couldnt be helping the situation any.

And see my pic in my avatar?

thats a gravid female.

you should have a lay bin in with her 24/7.

and yes she'll get chunky, prob change colors, may be roaming more, get more pissy, hang near the bottom of the cage, eat more, eat less. lol.
 
ah alright thanks yea i just recently found out cal with d3 is only 2x a month an thats what i been giving her an didnt kno but i didnt give her to much so now i will be getting her some calcium with out d3 an do that everyfeeding hopfully starting with tomorrow.
 
well MJ now has her tail sticking up like a dog its up over her back whats that mean i kno it cant be normal?...... any ideas?
 
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