hunger strike or worse?

ok so today he ate 3 adult dubias, one locust and 2 mealworms !
he shed half way but i didnt see him pulling off his skin like 1st time !
it passed 12-13 hours since the lights where on and he is preparing to sleep!
he turns 6 months in 3-4 days !
i know babies should shed in hours or a day ! but at his age its ok to shed in 2 days or more?
 
Whatcamo said:
I'd mist him heavily with luke warm water or give him a little showering to help loosen up the skin
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i did that all day but he didnt remove it as usual ,as if he didnt bother him or as he didnt knew that he was shedding !
is this a concern ?
 
ok so in 2 days he barely sheded !
i hade some work to do and had to leave my home for 2-3 hours ! when i came back he was almost fully sheded ! just bits of the tail and toes left !
i mean cmmon i was 2 days at home watching misting like crazy, didnt sleep ,was so worried and when i left 2 hours ta-da! he is messing with me !
darn little one !
 
laurie said:
That is the pesky little chams we love. They just have to mess with us. But it is great to hear kiwi is ok.
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yap im so happy :D he drinks like crazy ,he just wants molted dubia but ill wont give him anything a day or two and hopefully he will eat after that
 
Strange behaviour

ok so he wont eat - just wants mealworms or fresh molted white dubias !
he just wants to escape from the cage !
besides that after his shedding he is very active - climbs and walks a lot
he goes to the bottom of the cage and fires his tongue for dirt and river rocks - i dont know why !
nothing has changed in this cage - same temps, same fixtures, same dripper, same plant -everything !

he looks healthy but he just goes crazy for the rocks and dirt like never before !
i mean after 30 min of basking he just runs and i mean runs like crazy for the bottom of the plant !
and when i open his cage he just wants to escape wild free !

can he act like this becose of his lack of appetite and low quantity of food he ate the last 3 days ?

such a frenzy running mode in cage worries me
 
i use zoomed reptivite with d3-twice per month,repto life multivit -twice pe month,and jbl micro calcium daily!i gutload my dubias with oranges,carrots,apples,patatoes,cucumber!
 
Im not familiar with those supp brands, but the scheduling sounds correct.

The ratios of things can vary from one brand o another though.
Maybe someone with more knowledge could chime in on that.

Your gutloading isnt bad, but could use some work.
Im not privy to what all you have access to over there though.
I would recommend making a dry gutload using sandrachameleons blog.
As far as I know, potatoes and cucumber dont offer much nutrition.
So while they are safe to use(as far as I know) the crickets may fill up on them, and eat less of the "good stuff".

It sounds like a nutritional imbalance to me.
Erratic behavior is a sign of supp imbalances, and eating dirt could mean he wants the minerals that are in the dirt.

Does he do this even when food is available in the enclosure?
 
i will try to get a better gutload!yes he still does this with food in his cage!if anyone uses this brands of suplements pls get me an info about them!
 
For now, if there are rocks small enough for him to eat, remove them, and try to cover as much dirt as possible. A little dirt now and then is fine IMO(if its chem free dirt) but you dont want him eating too much at once, and getting impacted.
 
Also, at this point I feel it would be wise to fill out the form, just to cover everything. ;)

Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
  • Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.


Pictures are helpful
 
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - veiled male chameleon, age 6 months , i have him for 1 month and a half
Handling - once at 3-4 days for sunlight
Feeding - ate crickets for 3-4 weeks,after that he refused them , i switch to lobster roach and finally dubia !before shedding he ate 4-6 medium-large dubia and 2-3 lobster roach per day
i gutloaded them the 1st 3-4 days with dog food after that i gutload them with oranges,appels,carrots , sometimes patatoes and cucumber

Supplements - zoomed reptivite with d3 -twice per month,repto life plus multivitamin -twice per month and daily jbl microcalcium
Watering - i use bottled water, he drink from dripper and when i mist him!
i mist 3-5 times per day,dripper runs 12 horus
Fecal Description - perfectly white urates and normal poop

Cage Info:
Cage Type - mesh screen cage 25x25x65 inch
Lighting - for basking i use a 75 w neodyniu exo terra bulb , and a 10.0 uvb reptiglo compact bulb, 12 hours on 12 hours off
Temperature -basking spot 90-91 F , ambient 80-82,at night it drops to 75-78F- i use a zoomed analogue termo/hygro combo -just ordered digital termo/hygro
Humidity -50-60% in normal conditions ,and 70-80% when i mist !
Plants - right now i use a dracaena plant


Current Problem - well he stopped eating 3 days ago when his shedding started !
the 1st day he ate nothing !
2nd day he ate 3 molted white duias, 2 mealworms ,and one canned locust (just wanted to see if he eats anything else)
3rd day - this means today he only wants to eat mealworms and white molted dubias !

The main concern is that today he was very active, basked for 30 mins and after that he just runs like crazy at the bottom of the cage and tries to eat dirt ! I have river rocks covering the dirt but he still finds a way to get some tiny quantities of dirt ! When i open the cage door he just runs to escape !
He did this like 6-8 times till now !
 
here are some pics i just took 5 min ago,he is basking!he still has some skin left to shed at the end of the tail
 
any advice how can i make him eat again? should i just let him be for 2-3 days and introduce the food again?
right now i ordered silkworms but they will come in 7-10 days !
what should i do till than? should i give him molted dubias or should i stop him feeding for the next 2-3 days ?

what do you think about the suplements ?
i dont want him to eat dirt anymore !
 
Going worse?

well its the 5th day and he still wont eat !
in 2 days he didnt eat anything ! he wont eat even mealworms or molted dubias as he did !
he still poops - normal ! he drinks a lot !
and he still goes to the bottom of the cage and tries to eat drit !
can someone help with with an advice ?
how long can they go without food ?
what should i to ?
 
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