Is my Baby Panther Male orFemale
- Thread starter stevepwn
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is that a male? thats similiar to mine i think and same age
Sorry bud,she is a female,but If I wasnt the breeder that produce her,I probably will get confused like u did since she change so much from colors to her tails.
Thats why u will have to talk to ur breeder.
Talk with ur breeder,so u guys can discuss the outcome.
Angelwolf
Chameleon Enthusiast
Wow! So is it a boy or a girl @alphakenc ?
not sure thebreeder who i trust says its a boy and a few others say its a boy too. i'm hoping its a boy lol
bobcochran
Chameleon Enthusiast
Looks female.
Matt Vanilla Gorilla
Chameleon Enthusiast
I have, quietly in my corner like a mouse, been observing this thread! I think the time has come to stand up and speak, so to speak! Lol. Isn't it amazing how, in the previous thread regarding this little angel, some of the same people who felt certain that this specific chameleon (still exactly the same chameleon) must be a boy, now feel that it is a girl! It has been just more than a week since the previous thread was initiated.
Yes, I am the breeder! And this far, I have not sent a single chameleon to any customer that turned out to be the opposite sex of what the customer selected! But, and I am not lying about this, I am human! Lol. From a very young age, I start separating what seems to be male babies from those who look like they might be female! For the next three and a half to four months (till they start going to their new human families = forever homes) I keep an eye on them as I care for them, carefully scrutinizing each of them, constantly asking, are you a little boy or a little girl? (* = for added comedy relief please read the joke below marked by the *)
I promised Stevepwn a male ambilobe panther! A male he will get! I value: Respect, Honor, Trust, Faith and Kindness to all living creatures (human, animal and plant alike) very highly! I believe in being a steward of all I have been bestowed while keeping a high moral and ethical ground!
I do my best to breed amazing, healthy chameleons and to try and sell chameleons to like minded individuals and in a sense consider them to be a part of my family once they take a little part of my heart into their home!
Stevepwn is a wonderful person! That little chameleon is incredibly lucky to have found such a wonderful, loving home! If he/she turns out not to be the sex that Stevepwn prefered, it will obviously not be at the loss of Stevepwn (not excluding or downplaying the emptiness Stevepwn will feel in his heart, if it were to be his misfortune, the day this wonderful person sent back the little treasure to me!)
* The little grandma visiting her daughter right after she had a baby is helping her daughter giving the baby a bath. Grandma gets a perplexed look on her face, looks at her daughter and asks: "Dear, is the baby a boy or a girl?" The daughter responds: "Mama, watch the baby and I will go get your glasses!" Grandma responds:"Oh! No, dear the probem, it's not with my eyes, it is with my memory!"
Yes, I am the breeder! And this far, I have not sent a single chameleon to any customer that turned out to be the opposite sex of what the customer selected! But, and I am not lying about this, I am human! Lol. From a very young age, I start separating what seems to be male babies from those who look like they might be female! For the next three and a half to four months (till they start going to their new human families = forever homes) I keep an eye on them as I care for them, carefully scrutinizing each of them, constantly asking, are you a little boy or a little girl? (* = for added comedy relief please read the joke below marked by the *)
I promised Stevepwn a male ambilobe panther! A male he will get! I value: Respect, Honor, Trust, Faith and Kindness to all living creatures (human, animal and plant alike) very highly! I believe in being a steward of all I have been bestowed while keeping a high moral and ethical ground!
I do my best to breed amazing, healthy chameleons and to try and sell chameleons to like minded individuals and in a sense consider them to be a part of my family once they take a little part of my heart into their home!
Stevepwn is a wonderful person! That little chameleon is incredibly lucky to have found such a wonderful, loving home! If he/she turns out not to be the sex that Stevepwn prefered, it will obviously not be at the loss of Stevepwn (not excluding or downplaying the emptiness Stevepwn will feel in his heart, if it were to be his misfortune, the day this wonderful person sent back the little treasure to me!)
* The little grandma visiting her daughter right after she had a baby is helping her daughter giving the baby a bath. Grandma gets a perplexed look on her face, looks at her daughter and asks: "Dear, is the baby a boy or a girl?" The daughter responds: "Mama, watch the baby and I will go get your glasses!" Grandma responds:"Oh! No, dear the probem, it's not with my eyes, it is with my memory!"
Remkon
Chameleon Enthusiast
Noone is questioning your expertise mate
... Stevepwn PM'd me to give my opinion and so I did but I may be wrong, I will never claim to be a sexpert (ooooh the phun) and would take your opinion over mine on the subject any day.
Especially since you have had hit in your hands and got the best possible view under it's skirt/in his pants and did a ton more of sexing chameleons than me.
On some of em it's just more of an educated guess anyways...
While at it I will complement you on your cham's, they are magnificent!
carol5208
Chameleon Enthusiast
Females will often have a little green or purplish color on their cheeks.I'm sorry @stevepwn . The colors are throwing me off. One minute, I think male, because of the bars and green coloration on it's head. But then, in a different picture, it looks all drab pink, which I know is female. I'm not any help. I'm sorry!
carol5208
Chameleon Enthusiast
Matt, I did not mean anything against you in anyway. I hope this chameleon turns out to be a boy! I have been in the community for almost 8 yrs now and I have seen mistakes made, however, I will agree it is not common place.. I am not a breeder or claim to know it all. I am just giving my opinion. And opinions can change. I have seen chameleons that were thought to be female and then a thread was posted months later and it looked more like a male and vice versa. The chameleon in my avatar....I was 100% convinced it was a female for months and months. It had no color whatsoever and it did not have any bulge whatsoever. It was not growing either, which convinced me it was a female because it was so small. It ended up having a parasite(no fault of Shauna, the owner). It is possible that is why he was not growing, but in any case I thought it was a girl, mostly because the tail was so thin and lack of color! I got this guy from Tree Candy Chameleons and Shauna and I conversed back and forth about the gender through pics and conversations. Well as you can see, I was wrong!
Matt Vanilla Gorilla
Chameleon Enthusiast
Ladies and gentlemen, no offense was taken! Lol. I was the one to encourage Stevepwn to post his pictures on the forums! It is all about showing how incredibly difficult it can be at times! Some clutches really are impossible with sexing! Lol. I have often wondered about the possibility of them being able to cross gender from one sex to another through puberty! Thee are many creatures on this planet that do so! Peacocks and hens for instance! Has a astounding obvious difference between male and female, and they commonly change sex. I had a chicken once who fathered quite e few babies before he/she motherer babies mind boggling!
This is just part of why I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE chameleons!!!
This is just part of why I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE chameleons!!!
NHenn
Avid Member
I think this is the longest "Sex My Chameleon" thread to date. I think what we need to be more certain is better pictures of the chameleon walking on something thin with its tail straight out and with something solid and lighter in color as the background. This will really help with the determination. In person, I find it fairly easy to sex chameleons but when it comes to looking at just a picture it makes it 10 times harder and I second guess myself a lot.
For what it is worth, I feel it is a female based off the tail as well as the color patterns the chameleon is showing in certain pictures. After raising so many you start to see patterns that a juvenile female will typically show vs a juvenile male and it normally becomes fairly obvious at that point. Locale does play a role in those colors and patterns so it isn't something set in stone but can help in situations like this.
For what it is worth, I feel it is a female based off the tail as well as the color patterns the chameleon is showing in certain pictures. After raising so many you start to see patterns that a juvenile female will typically show vs a juvenile male and it normally becomes fairly obvious at that point. Locale does play a role in those colors and patterns so it isn't something set in stone but can help in situations like this.
Angelwolf
Chameleon Enthusiast
Really? I have owned a number of pet peafowl, and while it is impossible to sex them until they reach maturity, I have never heard of them having the ability to change their sex. I am intrigued. Please share more?
Matt Vanilla Gorilla
Chameleon Enthusiast
Did a quick Google search on pea fowl changing sex and read the first article thst pope up. Here it is:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...gggMAE&usg=AFQjCNFTkmN0GJ97DnYZKXpi0tLQaGctgQ
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...gggMAE&usg=AFQjCNFTkmN0GJ97DnYZKXpi0tLQaGctgQ
carol5208
Chameleon Enthusiast
Female for sure!
