Is my Panther a boy or a girl?!?!
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Elizadolots
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so...are you feeling really secure on the gender issue?
In many ways this thread is the perfect example of what happens in this forum and why new, uninformed people need to be careful about how they take the information posted here.
I repeat that some chameleons need to reach adulthood before they can be accurately sexed.
If you need to make this introduction in the next few weeks/months maybe it would be worth a vet visit?
In many ways this thread is the perfect example of what happens in this forum and why new, uninformed people need to be careful about how they take the information posted here.
I repeat that some chameleons need to reach adulthood before they can be accurately sexed.
If you need to make this introduction in the next few weeks/months maybe it would be worth a vet visit?
Cainschams
New Member
LOL Thread of the ye....well, maybe of the month!
LOL!!! Cmon, Kent. What is your opinion
Eliza, would you please elaborate on the species that cant be sexed until fully mature? Surely not a panther....they can be sexed right out of the egg.
Texas Panther Man
New Member
I say shes a girl. Tail has a slight bulge but not as pronounced as I have normally seen in males.
Elizadolots
New Member
Really? Based on the posts here it's a crapshoot.....if the gender is important right now, then I think a trip to a vet with chameleon knowledge or a breeder who can actually handle the animal is in order because it's pretty obvious that just looking at the pictures isn't sufficient.
I believe it's one of those really big chameleons (Mellers?) that sometimes can't be accurately sexed until they are fully grown.
Julirs
New Member
C'mon Jared, you said it yourself. They're sexable out of the egg.
Kent-since you are one of the most accurate at this-what is your opinion?
Like I said-there is one I have that I thought was very clearly female that at about 3 months became very obviously male, but most we were correct on at a few weeks if not out of the egg.
Chigimonky
New Member
Ha I love that so many people are giving their opinions! It will be great to see in the next couple months what it turns out to be. I still think male but my wife insists female.
oh and Elizadolots, yes I plan on waiting quite some time before introducing them lol. I'm pretty sure my big boy would have himself a really funny tasting cricket if I let her around him right now
Keep the opinions coming!
oh and Elizadolots, yes I plan on waiting quite some time before introducing them lol. I'm pretty sure my big boy would have himself a really funny tasting cricket if I let her around him right now
Keep the opinions coming!
Elizadolots
New Member
I'm glad...I assumed as much, but I've long been trained on the "assumed just makes an ass out of you and me"...so, I ask.
PardalisGirl
Avid Member
LOL is right
This is a funny one...........I'll keep it going..........I say 99.9% male. He is a late bloomer though. There is a mini tail bulge going on for sure. Also, the red spotting on the underbelly and lower sides is a real give away. That is how males with red/orange in their coloring start to develop. Females may get that spotting under their chins, but not on the belly like that. The first set of pictures was a challenge. This second set of pictures is pretty clear to me.
The sexing of Panthers is rather interesting. They are pretty easy to sex after they come out of the egg for awhile. Their patterns (male vs female) seem to be so vivid when they first hatch. Then after they get comfy in their new baby cage they all seem to fade out and become more similar for awhile. After a month they become obvious again. Ease of sexing at early ages also can vary by locale. I've got a small group of six baby Tamataves that looked male from the time they hatched and have clearly looked male with barring and patterning the whole time. All six are male. Now they are getting their colors.
Kent, if this thread drags again you can chime in with your decision on sex
This is a funny one...........I'll keep it going..........I say 99.9% male. He is a late bloomer though. There is a mini tail bulge going on for sure. Also, the red spotting on the underbelly and lower sides is a real give away. That is how males with red/orange in their coloring start to develop. Females may get that spotting under their chins, but not on the belly like that. The first set of pictures was a challenge. This second set of pictures is pretty clear to me.
The sexing of Panthers is rather interesting. They are pretty easy to sex after they come out of the egg for awhile. Their patterns (male vs female) seem to be so vivid when they first hatch. Then after they get comfy in their new baby cage they all seem to fade out and become more similar for awhile. After a month they become obvious again. Ease of sexing at early ages also can vary by locale. I've got a small group of six baby Tamataves that looked male from the time they hatched and have clearly looked male with barring and patterning the whole time. All six are male. Now they are getting their colors.
Kent, if this thread drags again you can chime in with your decision on sex
pssh
Avid Member
My female has red on her belly... She always has, but she's showed me how much the other day in the shower. I also don't think I've ever seen a nosy be with red on the belly. I've seen them with lots of red on the face though... Of course, I'm not saying it's not possible, but it just sounds odd. I've also never seen every nosy be ever so... Eh.
I just don't think color like that is that good of an indicator.
I just don't think color like that is that good of an indicator.
PardalisGirl
Avid Member
Good points! Some females do have red on their bellies. I just think the bigger spots are a male thing. Check out the link to a recent post I made of a Nosy Be male. It's a male that's about 1 1/2 months old. I just went and looked at the whole clutch again to see what they are doing today with colors. I've got several males and they have quite a bit of red in their bodies right now. The blue/teal is popping out too. I think as they grow that the blue/teal/green color overtakes and dominates the red through the body. Here is the like with one of the baby males and his Daddy:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/cute-nosy-babies-35963/
Male for sure
Come on people, I haven't been doing chameleons for almost 2 years, and that's clearly a male. You all have been reading too many books and not enough hands on! My opinion is completely based on coloration. I've never been able to see this tail base idea that so many people talk about.
Come on people, I haven't been doing chameleons for almost 2 years, and that's clearly a male. You all have been reading too many books and not enough hands on! My opinion is completely based on coloration. I've never been able to see this tail base idea that so many people talk about.
Dsignrguy
Member
Actually, I dont think you can tell what a mellers is until one is on top of the ether
But I'm changing my vote on this little on......its now officially a..............SHIM!!!!
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