Is this a male or female????

[FrankTheTank]

I have looked at how to sex panthers and this worries me a little. Can someone say whether this is a male or female? Bc I paid for a male and I'm a little worried it is not what I got. I need certainty right now and not just guesses. Please only people with extensive knowledge in sexing panthers

 

[FrankTheTank]

I'm reading conflicting things. The how to sex panther thread in the breeding forum says only females have that bulge but everything else I'm reading says lack of bulge means female

 

[Seiryu]

Can you post another pic with it's tail straight out (without it being at an angle)? More of a shot at the actual tail then focused on the body.

Looks to be female to me though, how old is it?

 

[Olimpia]

I see a tinie little bulge, but I'm on my phone. I promise to double-check when I'm home again on my laptop.

And no, females never have a bulge. The sexing thread never says that, you may be confusing it with what we affectionately call the "Kent Vent," the little dip at the base of the tail where a bulge would be if it were male (but signals a female).

 

[FrankTheTank]

Can you post another pic with it's tail straight out (without it being at an angle)? More of a shot at the actual tail then focused on the body.

Looks to be female to me though, how old is it?

About 2 months old I think.

 

[FrankTheTank]

I see a tinie little bulge, but I'm on my phone. I promise to double-check when I'm home again on my laptop.

And no, females never have a bulge. The sexing thread never says that, you may be confusing it with what we affectionately call the "Kent Vent," the little dip at the base of the tail where a bulge would be if it were male (but signals a female).

I guess I was confused by it saying males lack a hemipenal bulge. But all the females pictures in that thread looked to have that bulge

 

[FrankTheTank]

Here is a close up I the first picture

 

[FrankTheTank]

Btw he/she is an ambilobe if that matters at all

 

[FrankTheTank]

Having most people saying its a female. Anyone else care to weigh in??

 

[FrankTheTank]

This is a much clearer picture. So much better than trying to look at it with the naked eye or a bad photo haha.
I think I see a little tiny bulge there. I am beginning to lean toward male

 

[ridgebax1]

I was under the impression that males of this age lack a hemipenal bulge and they should have a little indent behind their vent where the hemipene will be once the cham is older. It kind of looks like my guy did when I first got him so I vote male.

 

[FrankTheTank]

Thank you!!! I want it to be male so bad. I think I see the tiniest bulge. I guess I won't know for sure for another month or so

 

[FrankTheTank]

I think HE is starting to show!! At least I hope that's what it is....Any panther baby experts out there care to chime in?

 

[Rottsko]

that would be a female my friend.

 

[Trace]

I think it's a male, not a particularly endowed one at this point, but there is a subtle bulge there. If this animal isn't eating enough, as the OP has remarked on other threads, it might be a bit before he fills out.

 

[shaunaroxanne]

that would be a female my friend.

Ditto that. That looks clearly female to me.

 

[FrankTheTank]

I think it's a male, not a particularly endowed one at this point, but there is a subtle bulge there. If this animal isn't eating enough, as the OP has remarked on other threads, it might be a bit before he fills out.

I sure hope that's what it is. Seems everyone else thinks differently ^

 

[Olimpia]

I'm leaning towards male as well.

 

[maxttu]

I think HE is starting to show!! At least I hope that's what it is....Any panther baby experts out there care to chime in?

I see a bulge in the 3rd pic. I hate to go against Sang and Shauna because I highly respect them, but I'm saying male, with confidence.

 

[Lancecham]

Can you provide a clear picture of the entire body of the chameleon?
Also, how big is it?