Just took 4 month old veiled to the vet they gave vitamin a and d injection now it wont eat and is lathargic

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Hi! Before anyone can offer any help, we really need much more information. Big question is why the vet gave your chameleon an injection of vitamin D and A? If you can answer these questions in as much detail as possible, someone will have a much better idea of what’s going on. Be sure to include pics of your cham and entire enclosure, including lights and floor.

Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
  • Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

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Please Note:
  1. The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.
  2. Photos can be very helpful.
 
I don't understand the need for an "injection" at that young of age unless it was a life and death issue and on top of that vitamins "injection" would not save its life.
 
  • Your Chameleon - Veiled chameleon it's about 16 weeks not sure of sex and I've had it almost a month
  • Handling - Not really ever just got it don't wanna stress it to much
  • Feeding - Crickets only won't eat anything else about 3 a day until recently just put them in another cage in it's cage and check on it was gut loading with vegetables now I gut load with a Mazuri high calcium gut loading diet
  • Supplements - Zoo med repti calcium and zoo med reptivite every feeding
  • Watering - Homemade dripping system on top of cage drips down leaves when I mist it's about 20 seconds 4 or 5 times a day sometimes I see it drink
  • Fecal Description - white and creamy butt hasn't went in a couple days that I know of cause it's not eating
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. No just bought it Oct. 30th went to vet cause left eye was closed they rehydrated and a vitamin a and d injection and vomited 1 time after

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Reptabreeze mesh 16×16×30
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? Reptisun 13 watt 5.0 compact uvb and blue daylight bulb 60 watt in a zoo med combo porcelain fixture vet said I needed different uvb so now I added a exo terra 125 watt solar glow bulb in a single zoo med porcelain fixture. Turns on about 9 in the morning and off by 9 at night
  • Temperature - 75°f at bottom about 104°f at the very top heat in house at night is around 75°f I have a zoo med digital thermometer in the cage
  • Humidity - Low is about 45 high is about 85 I watch the hydrometer all day and when it's low I mist
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? None yet have to buy some
  • Placement - Cage is at least 3 feet from vent not really a high traffic area walk past maybe 10 times a day top of cage from ground is about 5 feet
  • Location - Michigan

Current Problem - Not eating sleep pattern is off and kinda lathargic
 
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Also I called the vet about this now they wanna do a radiograph and a fecal test I think there just trying to get money and in the process hurting my pet
 
Baby Dinosaur said:
  • Your Chameleon - Veiled chameleon it's about 16 weeks not sure of sex and I've had it almost a month. Does it have Spurs? Look at the heels....
  • https://www.adcham.com/html/husbandry/glossary/tarsalspur.html
  • Handling - Not really ever just got it don't wanna stress it to much
  • Feeding - Crickets only won't eat anything else about 3 a day until recently just put them in another cage in it's cage and check on it was gut loading with vegetables now I gut load with a Mazuri high calcium gut loading diet it should be eating more than this. Are the crickets an apppropriate size? I feed/gutload crickets with dandelion greens, kale, collards, carrots, sweet red peppers, sweet potato, squash, zucchini, etc. Not a fan of commercial gutloads.
  • Supplements - Zoo med repti calcium and zoo med reptivite every feeding You use both at every feeding? Do they have D3 in them?
  • Watering - Homemade dripping system on top of cage drips down leaves when I mist it's about 20 seconds 4 or 5 times a day sometimes I see it drink IMHO you need to mist longer at each session. Do not spray directly on the face.
  • Fecal Description - white and creamy butt hasn't went in a couple days that I know of cause it's not eating
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. No just bought it Oct. 30th went to vet cause left eye was closed they rehydrated and a vitamin a and d injection and vomited 1 time after Strange to me that it vomited. Not sure why the vitamins were given. Is there D3 in your supplements? PrEformed Vitamin A? Is the poop brown? Is it producing poop with the white part when it's eating?

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Reptabreeze mesh 16×16×30
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? Reptisun 13 watt 5.0 compact uvb and blue daylight bulb 60 watt in a zoo med combo porcelain fixture vet said I needed different uvb so now I added a exo terra 125 watt solar glow bulb in a single zoo med porcelain fixture. Turns on about 9 in the morning and off by 9 at night Your UVB lighting needs improvement. @Beman always explains it well. Your other lighting need only be a regular household incandescent bulb of a wattage that produces a basking temperature in the low 80'sF . No lights on at night.
  • Temperature - 75°f at bottom about 104°f at the very top heat in house at night is around 75°f I have a zoo med digital thermometer in the cage Way too hot in the basing area.
  • Humidity - Low is about 45 high is about 85 I watch the hydrometer all day and when it's low I mist
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? None yet have to buy some Live plants are needed. Veiled chameleons chew on plants and you don't want it to eat fake plants. Also no moss should be in the cagee IMHO.
  • Placement - Cage is at least 3 feet from vent not really a high traffic area walk past maybe 10 times a day top of cage from ground is about 5 feet
  • Location - Michigan

Current Problem - Not eating sleep pattern is off and kinda lathargic
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Baby Dinosaur said:
  • Your Chameleon - Veiled chameleon it's about 16 weeks not sure of sex and I've had it almost a month. Does it have Spurs? Look at the heels....
  • https://www.adcham.com/html/husbandry/glossary/tarsalspur.html
  • Handling - Not really ever just got it don't wanna stress it to much
  • Feeding - Crickets only won't eat anything else about 3 a day until recently just put them in another cage in it's cage and check on it was gut loading with vegetables now I gut load with a Mazuri high calcium gut loading diet it should be eating more than this. Are the crickets an apppropriate size? I feed/gutload crickets with dandelion greens, kale, collards, carrots, sweet red peppers, sweet potato, squash, zucchini, etc. Not a fan of commercial gutloads. (Ok will do there good size small crickets some are bigger than others)
  • Supplements - Zoo med repti calcium and zoo med reptivite every feeding You use both at every feeding? Do they have D3 in them? (The calcium 1 doesnt, not sure about the other and yes both every feeding.)
  • Watering - Homemade dripping system on top of cage drips down leaves when I mist it's about 20 seconds 4 or 5 times a day sometimes I see it drink IMHO you need to mist longer at each session. Do not spray directly on the face. (Ok how long should be good when I'm done humidity is at like 85 o yea I forgot the reptifogger I leave that on for a couple hours a day to.)
  • Fecal Description - white and creamy butt hasn't went in a couple days that I know of cause it's not eating
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. No just bought it Oct. 30th went to vet cause left eye was closed they rehydrated and a vitamin a and d injection and vomited 1 time after Strange to me that it vomited. Not sure why the vitamins were given. Is there D3 in your supplements? PrEformed Vitamin A? Is the poop brown? Is it producing poop with the white part when it's eating?( The poop was brown when she did poop but her eye was closed for 3 days that's why I took her)
Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Reptabreeze mesh 16×16×30
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? Reptisun 13 watt 5.0 compact uvb and blue daylight bulb 60 watt in a zoo med combo porcelain fixture vet said I needed different uvb so now I added a exo terra 125 watt solar glow bulb in a single zoo med porcelain fixture. Turns on about 9 in the morning and off by 9 at night Your UVB lighting needs improvement. @Beman always explains it well. Your other lighting need only be a regular household incandescent bulb of a wattage that produces a basking temperature in the low 80'sF .( No lights on at night. The blue day bulb came with the setup I bought same with the compact uvb I only bought the solar glow to improve the uvb no lights at night at all shuts off at 9pm what's the best uvb I had a florescent reptisun 5.0 t8 but the vet said it didn't give enough uvb what do u recommend I use)
  • Temperature - 75°f at bottom about 104°f at the very top heat in house at night is around 75°f I have a zoo med digital thermometer in the cage Way too hot in the basing area. (That's just the very top of the cage she doesn't go up there)
  • Humidity - Low is about 45 high is about 85 I watch the hydrometer all day and when it's low I mist
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? None yet have to buy some Live plants are needed. Veiled chameleons chew on plants and you don't want it to eat fake plants. Also no moss should be in the cagee IMHO. (Ok do you recommend any good plants I can use.)
 
Baby Dinosaur said:
Baby Dinosaur said:
  • Your Chameleon - Veiled chameleon it's about 16 weeks not sure of sex and I've had it almost a month. Does it have Spurs? Look at the heels....
  • https://www.adcham.com/html/husbandry/glossary/tarsalspur.html
  • Handling - Not really ever just got it don't wanna stress it to much
  • Feeding - Crickets only won't eat anything else about 3 a day until recently just put them in another cage in it's cage and check on it was gut loading with vegetables now I gut load with a Mazuri high calcium gut loading diet it should be eating more than this. Are the crickets an apppropriate size? I feed/gutload crickets with dandelion greens, kale, collards, carrots, sweet red peppers, sweet potato, squash, zucchini, etc. Not a fan of commercial gutloads. (Ok will do there good size small crickets some are bigger than others)
  • Supplements - Zoo med repti calcium and zoo med reptivite every feeding You use both at every feeding? Do they have D3 in them? (The calcium 1 doesnt, not sure about the other and yes both every feeding.)
  • Watering - Homemade dripping system on top of cage drips down leaves when I mist it's about 20 seconds 4 or 5 times a day sometimes I see it drink IMHO you need to mist longer at each session. Do not spray directly on the face. (Ok how long should be good when I'm done humidity is at like 85 o yea I forgot the reptifogger I leave that on for a couple hours a day to.)
  • Fecal Description - white and creamy butt hasn't went in a couple days that I know of cause it's not eating
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. No just bought it Oct. 30th went to vet cause left eye was closed they rehydrated and a vitamin a and d injection and vomited 1 time after Strange to me that it vomited. Not sure why the vitamins were given. Is there D3 in your supplements? PrEformed Vitamin A? Is the poop brown? Is it producing poop with the white part when it's eating?( The poop was brown when she did poop but her eye was closed for 3 days that's why I took her)
Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Reptabreeze mesh 16×16×30
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? Reptisun 13 watt 5.0 compact uvb and blue daylight bulb 60 watt in a zoo med combo porcelain fixture vet said I needed different uvb so now I added a exo terra 125 watt solar glow bulb in a single zoo med porcelain fixture. Turns on about 9 in the morning and off by 9 at night Your UVB lighting needs improvement. @Beman always explains it well. Your other lighting need only be a regular household incandescent bulb of a wattage that produces a basking temperature in the low 80'sF .( No lights on at night. The blue day bulb came with the setup I bought same with the compact uvb I only bought the solar glow to improve the uvb no lights at night at all shuts off at 9pm what's the best uvb I had a florescent reptisun 5.0 t8 but the vet said it didn't give enough uvb what do u recommend I use)
  • Temperature - 75°f at bottom about 104°f at the very top heat in house at night is around 75°f I have a zoo med digital thermometer in the cage Way too hot in the basing area. (That's just the very top of the cage she doesn't go up there)
  • Humidity - Low is about 45 high is about 85 I watch the hydrometer all day and when it's low I mist
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? None yet have to buy some Live plants are needed. Veiled chameleons chew on plants and you don't want it to eat fake plants. Also no moss should be in the cagee IMHO. (Ok do you recommend any good plants I can use.)
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So you say you're dusting with both calcium w/o D3 and reptivite (D3 unknown) at every feeding. Please confirm whether the reptivite contains D3 (or take a photo of the container). Were you doing this prior to going to the vet where they gave a vitamin injection? Do you know if your vet has experience specifically with exotics and chameleons?
 
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