Length in labor of infertile eggs

[Mrs.Rocky]

OP, I see you liked my post, we’re you able to get an appointment? This is time sensitive.

I did. I have one at 3:30. Wish me luck!

 

[Brodybreaux25]

Good luck! Awesome, glad you’re taking this seriously.

Once you’ve seen the vet, please come back and update us. Then the members helping you previously can help you get your husbandry back on point.

 

[Mrs.Rocky]

Good luck! Awesome, glad you’re taking this seriously.

Once you’ve seen the vet, please come back and update us. Then the members helping you previously can help you get your husbandry back on point.

So we just got back. She is egg bound. And has a broken arm. She is calcium deficient. Causing her to be egg bound. They wanted to keep her for watch but I couldn’t afford that. So I took her home to I can nurse her. They gave her high dose of calcium intervenies. They sent him high dose of calcium and pain meds. So I can administer at home. In three days she should release her eggs. They actually recommended to remove the soil, and place shredded paper towel, or even towels. They placed a splint on her arm, to be left for a month. They are hopeful of her speedy recovery. She actually didn’t want to leave my hand. And now she is in her cage sleeping. Tomorrow is a new day!

 

[kinyonga]

If she's eggbound why are they not doing a spaying? Did they do an X-ray? Egg binding means she can't lay her eggs. If she's eggbound because of the lack of calcium and the eggs are still small enough for her to pass...maybe she can still pass them....but not if she's truly eggbound.

I didn't/don't think she was at that point (of not being able to lay them) yet yesterday....and if it was handled properly quickly I thought she still had a chance to lay her eggs....but with all the goings on now it's more iffy.

I hope what the vet has told you to do works...but I'm not sure.

If she makes it through this you need to make a lot of changes to things to stop it from happening again and to get her health op back on track.

 

[salty dog]

Thank you Kinyonga, I'm beiing very quiet!! I monitor my chams every day very closely... I think that in itself in the long run prevents problems...

 

[Mrs.Rocky]

If she's eggbound why are they not doing a spaying? Did they do an X-ray? Egg binding means she can't lay her eggs. If she's eggbound because of the lack of calcium and the eggs are still small enough for her to pass...maybe she can still pass them....but not if she's truly eggbound.

I didn't/don't think she was at that point (of not being able to lay them) yet yesterday....and if it was handled properly quickly I thought she still had a chance to lay her eggs....but with all the goings on now it's more iffy.

I hope what the vet has told you to do works...but I'm not sure.

If she makes it through this you need to make a lot of changes to things to stop it from happening again and to get her health op back on track.

Listen guys. I came here for advice and not to be judged. Yes, I had lack of knowledge of chameleon. Never said I was a pro, that’s why I seeked help online. No need for side comments from anyone. I prefer negative comments not even be posted unless it’s actual advice!

The veterinarian said she is egg binded because the last egg she passed was two days ago, and it was very soggy and no shell. I opted out from X-ray because of what she clearly said and lack of funds. I didn’t have 15 hundred dollars just laying around. So I preferred her to use the funds that was for x ray somewhere more useful for her (my chameleon). She explained egg binding is lack of forming shell and that causes binding. So there is no calcium, no shell, no shell, no egg out, no egg out, binding. So I guess she wasnt severely egg binded or close to it. She did speak about spaying her, and that was another 15 hundred dollars. I told her id like for that once all of this is done. She said, it’s a high risk procedure now that she is egg bound. So the riskare higher and complicated. And chances of her making it out of surgery is low. So to better watch her and administer high doses of calcium during her Pregnancy. They said to return in a week. In three days she should release her eggs. If she doesn’t to call, and then we can take further steps. They examined her and had her for an hour and said the calcium will help her release the eggs. So I’m assuming the vet believes she still has a chance to lay them on her own. Iwas given high dose of calcium to give her two times a day.

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

Listen guys. I came here for advice and not to be judged. Yes, I had lack of knowledge of chameleon. Never said I was a pro, that’s why I seeked help online. No need for side comments from anyone. I prefer negative comments not even be posted unless it’s actual advice!

The veterinarian said she is egg binded because the last egg she passed was two days ago, and it was very soggy and no shell. I opted out from X-ray because of what she clearly said and lack of funds. I didn’t have 15 hundred dollars just laying around. So I preferred her to use the funds that was for x ray somewhere more useful for her (my chameleon). She explained egg binding is lack of forming shell and that causes binding. So there is no calcium, no shell, no shell, no egg out, no egg out, binding. So I guess she wasnt severely egg binded or close to it. She did speak about spaying her, and that was another 15 hundred dollars. I told her id like for that once all of this is done. She said, it’s a high risk procedure now that she is egg bound. So the riskare higher and complicated. And chances of her making it out of surgery is low. So to better watch her and administer high doses of calcium during her Pregnancy. They said to return in a week. In three days she should release her eggs. If she doesn’t to call, and then we can take further steps. They examined her and had her for an hour and said the calcium will help her release the eggs. So I’m assuming the vet believes she still has a chance to lay them on her own. Iwas given high dose of calcium to give her two times a day.

Welcome @Mrs.Rocky . I’m not here to give you crap so please do not take this as that . Your new , as well as petsmart/petco are Notorious for bad info . However with out an x-ray there’s no way to know If she still has eggs , if the eggs left are formed or if there’s been a rupture . If she truly is egg bound she need surgery or she will pass . If she is egg bound you are past the point of her laying , she is likely toxic . Make her comfortable I’m sorry to say she will not be with you much longer .

 

[MissSkittles]

@Mrs.Rocky You have been advised by the members that the rest of us look to for guidance. @kinyonga I think is questioning the treatment plan of your vet...not judging you. There are some ‘exotics’ vets that have little experience or knowledge of chameleons.
It is beyond unfortunate that the pet store gave you wrong advice on keeping your chameleon. We won’t get into that whole Petco thing. You obviously care for your chameleon and followed what you believed to be good advice.
Hopefully, your girl will survive all of this. If she does, it’s certain that you’ll need to make many changes to provide her with the appropriate husbandry. This forum is absolutely the best place to learn and receive advice on that. Please, do keep us updated on your cham’s progress.
There are many resources here that you can explore and learn from. When you are ready, this will be the best way to have your husbandry reviewed to learn what changes need to be made. https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/how-to-ask-for-help.66/

 

[Mrs.Rocky]

@Mrs.Rocky You have been advised by the members that the rest of us look to for guidance. @kinyonga I think is questioning the treatment plan of your vet...not judging you. There are some ‘exotics’ vets that have little experience or knowledge of chameleons.
It is beyond unfortunate that the pet store gave you wrong advice on keeping your chameleon. We won’t get into that whole Petco thing. You obviously care for your chameleon and followed what you believed to be good advice.
Hopefully, your girl will survive all of this. If she does, it’s certain that you’ll need to make many changes to provide her with the appropriate husbandry. This forum is absolutely the best place to learn and receive advice on that. Please, do keep us updated on your cham’s progress.
There are many resources here that you can explore and learn from. When you are ready, this will be the best way to have your husbandry reviewed to learn what changes need to be made. https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/how-to-ask-for-help.66/

Thank you! I wasn’t meaning towards kinyongas. I guess it was directed to others who add little side notes and I saw like a joke. I am really trying my best with her. I have learned a lot. My kids have learned a lot and have actually shared it with their classmates. I do hope the vet didn’t send me off to just kill my pet. So I am hoping that these calcium’s will help her. I honestly wish I did have 15 hundred laying around so she can actually get a full blown care but I honestly didn’t. I even had to borrow money to get this done. And I am already ridiculed at home for it so it’s just stressful. And I am trying to stay positive about it. Cuz it may me silly but even though it’s not like a dog you can get daily and play, but you’ve grown accustomed to her being and every day is something new of learning. So i will have faith that she can recover. And maybe I should look into a second opinion for her. But I felt comfortable that they knew what they were doing.

 

[kinyonga]

Listen guys. I came here for advice and not to be judged. Yes, I had lack of knowledge of chameleon. Never said I was a pro, that’s why I seeked help online. No need for side comments from anyone. I prefer negative comments not even be posted unless it’s actual advice!

The veterinarian said she is egg binded because the last egg she passed was two days ago, and it was very soggy and no shell. I opted out from X-ray because of what she clearly said and lack of funds. I didn’t have 15 hundred dollars just laying around. So I preferred her to use the funds that was for x ray somewhere more useful for her (my chameleon). She explained egg binding is lack of forming shell and that causes binding. So there is no calcium, no shell, no shell, no egg out, no egg out, binding. So I guess she wasnt severely egg binded or close to it. She did speak about spaying her, and that was another 15 hundred dollars. I told her id like for that once all of this is done. She said, it’s a high risk procedure now that she is egg bound. So the riskare higher and complicated. And chances of her making it out of surgery is low. So to better watch her and administer high doses of calcium during her Pregnancy. They said to return in a week. In three days she should release her eggs. If she doesn’t to call, and then we can take further steps. They examined her and had her for an hour and said the calcium will help her release the eggs. So I’m assuming the vet believes she still has a chance to lay them on her own. Iwas given high dose of calcium to give her two times a day.

I DID NOT judge you...I was simply trying to figure out the situation so I could hopefully help... I've been keeping chameleons for over 30 years so I know a thing or two...but I still don't have all the answers.

Without the X-ray you can't see if she has any eggs or egg "parts" left inside her...so you don't really know how to treat it.
Without spaying, if she is eggbound and doesn't get the rest of the eggs and yolk out of her she will develop infection and die.
If the eggs are not yoked it's hard for the material to be pushed out.
If she's not spayed befiore she goes down hill too far there will be little chance of her making it.
As I said, calcium might help her to push the eggs out...but it won't do much if the eggs aren't yolked.

Hoping the very slim chance of her getting all the eggs out and any yolk, etc happens to her.
Good luck!

 

[Twells92]

We all started off on this forums like you. Maby not the exact same scenario, but ya. If you want to learn how to properly keep these amazing creatures you found the right place, as Brody said, welcome!!!!! You stumbled upon a gold mine homie. I promise, No one here is trying to talk bad, we all come from diff walks of life but have one thing in common. The love/passion whatever you want to call it for These sweet lizards. There is more information on this forums than dang near anywhere else. And the best of em’ are here too. A lot are willing to help, if you give them the needed info so they can properly guide you along the way. Some here are coming from 20+ years of keeping, and are the ones who paved the way for this hobbie. Like I said, No one is against you, they just may not be able to express it the way you are reading it. Once again, welcome!

 

[Mrs.Rocky]

I DID NOT judge you...I was simply trying to figure out the situation so I could hopefully help... I've been keeping chameleons for over 30 years so I know a thing or two...but I still don't have al the answers.

Without the X-ray you can't see if she has any eggs or egg "parts" left inside her...so you don't really know how to treat it.
Without spaying, if she is eggbound and doesn't get the rest of the eggs and yolk out of her she will develop infection and die.
If the eggs are not yoked it's hard for the material to be pushed out.
If she's not spayed befiore she goes down hill too far there will be little chance of her making it.
As I said, calcium might help her to push the eggs out...but it won't do much if the eggs aren't yolked.

Hoping the very slim chance of her getting all the eggs out and any yolk, etc happens to her.
Good luck!

Thank you! And again it wasn’t directed at you. I guess reply it under you name was wrong. But it wasnt directed at you. I’ll see if in the morning I’ll take her back for an x ray. Thank you!

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

Thank you! I wasn’t meaning towards kinyongas. I guess it was directed to others who add little side notes and I saw like a joke. I am really trying my best with her. I have learned a lot. My kids have learned a lot and have actually shared it with their classmates. I do hope the vet didn’t send me off to just kill my pet. So I am hoping that these calcium’s will help her. I honestly wish I did have 15 hundred laying around so she can actually get a full blown care but I honestly didn’t. I even had to borrow money to get this done. And I am already ridiculed at home for it so it’s just stressful. And I am trying to stay positive about it. Cuz it may me silly but even though it’s not like a dog you can get daily and play, but you’ve grown accustomed to her being and every day is something new of learning. So i will have faith that she can recover. And maybe I should look into a second opinion for her. But I felt comfortable that they knew what they were doing.

The little girls are a bit more difficult . They have the same requirements as male but need to be tweaked ( feeding and temps ) . It’s a very very expensive hobby for sure . @kinyonga we all turn to along with @jannb , @Brodybreaux25 . @JoXie411 is a book of knowledge as well but she has a hand problem at the moment . If she’s able and chime‘s in she as well be helpful . Please do not feel your being judged sometime we can come off that way . All our goal is in the end is to be helpful to the keeper for the well being of the baby .

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

Thank you! And again it wasn’t directed at you. I guess reply it under you name was wrong. But it wasnt directed at you. I’ll see if in the morning I’ll take her back for an x ray. Thank you!

You will at least know if she has eggs and what shape they are in . From there of course it’s your choice if she needs surgery but at least you would know .

 

[kinyonga]

@Mrs.Rocky ...I'm not going to interfere with the vets advice even though I'm not sure it will work. Try not to disturb her too much...she needs peace to lay to lessen the stress....I don't want to give you bad advice but I think I'd leave her a day or so to see if she can lay the eggs before I took her back as long s she's not looking any worse...but this is a crap shoot. It could be bad or good either way.

I really do hope she can get through this. I realize now that you weren't exactly thinking I was judging you. I wasn't.

 

[Mrs.Rocky]

Morning guys. I woke up turned on her light and her body went to work. She has dropped an egg. I gave her some calcium that the vet sent home. And have left her alone. I did try putting her in the bin after I gave her the calcium. But she managed to climb back to her branch. That’s where she has been dropping them. This time she’s actually dropped it into the bin. I have left her alone. Will continue to monitor her. Thank you!

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

Morning guys. I woke up turned on her light and her body went to work. She has dropped an egg. I gave her some calcium that the vet sent home. And have left her alone. I did try putting her in the bin after I gave her the calcium. But she managed to climb back to her branch. That’s where she has been dropping them. This time she’s actually dropped it into the bin. I have left her alone. Will continue to monitor her. Thank you!

Please keep us posted . How is she looking ?

 

[Mrs.Rocky]

Please keep us posted . How is she looking ?

She is looking much better and not fatigue. I just noticed she has been moving around. So it’s a matter of her dropping eggs. Not sure if to remove the bin. Or leave it at this point. But I’ll check in her in a bit. I sneakily stick an eye around the corner to see her.

 

[Kristen Wilkins]

She is looking much better and not fatigue. I just noticed she has been moving around. So it’s a matter of her dropping eggs. Not sure if to remove the bin. Or leave it at this point. But I’ll check in her in a bit. I sneakily stick an eye around the corner to see her.

Just leave the bin till your sure she’s completely done . If you’re certain she never laid in it you can just leave it in her condo . She should always have one . The less you are in her space the better . If your hand watering then just water and then leave her be . If she’s working don’t offer her any feeders till she’s done .

my girl chose this little teeny pot to lay in . Even though she had a nice big one .

 

[Mrs.Rocky]

Just leave the bin till your sure she’s completely done . If you’re certain she never laid in it you can just leave it in her condo . She should always have one . The less you are in her space the better . If your hand watering then just water and then leave her be . If she’s working don’t offer her any feeders till she’s done .

my girl chose this little teeny pot to lay in . Even though she had a nice big one .

Was there a picture to this post? I didn’t see anything.
That’s her right now. She stopped moving around. But now she’s positioned over it. Shes never laid in it. Yesterday she actually tried digging behind it. But wouldn’t go inside it. Well I’ll now let her be for a while. Tonight I will give her her other dose. But I’ll call doctor today.