Leopard gecko laying

[MissSkittles]

There are three different types of albino in Leopard Geckos: Tremper, Bell, and Rainwater. It is generally advised not to breed them together, I forget exactly why but it is definitely something to look into.

I found this. https://celestial-geckos.tumblr.com/post/153239984938/crossing-albino-strains

Crossing strains of albinism is a huge no-no. Regardless of it causes blatant issues with offspring or not. You’re stacking mutations affecting similar pathways when you do it. One albinism would be like having a leaky pipe before the shower head. Stacking them together is like removing entire sections of the plumbing.

 

[kinyonga]

I found this. https://celestial-geckos.tumblr.com/post/153239984938/crossing-albino-strains

Crossing strains of albinism is a huge no-no. Regardless of it causes blatant issues with offspring or not. You’re stacking mutations affecting similar pathways when you do it. One albinism would be like having a leaky pipe before the shower head. Stacking them together is like removing entire sections of the plumbing.

You beat me to it @MissSkittles !

 

[MissSkittles]

You beat me to it @MissSkittles !

It piqued my curiosity.

 

[kinyonga]

Mine too. I remembered hearing something about it a long time ago.

 

[CJ's Exotics]

I found this. https://celestial-geckos.tumblr.com/post/153239984938/crossing-albino-strains

Crossing strains of albinism is a huge no-no. Regardless of it causes blatant issues with offspring or not. You’re stacking mutations affecting similar pathways when you do it. One albinism would be like having a leaky pipe before the shower head. Stacking them together is like removing entire sections of the plumbing.

There we go! It's been a while, thanks! The tricky thing is that you don't know for sure the albino strains a gecko can hold if it is heterozygous or possible heterozygous (het or poss het) for it, which is difficult to tell visually. Where did you get the geckos from OP?

 

[Serbianchameleon]

Okay I’m not going to breed them then... But I can breed her with child of my first female and albino male if its not albino right?

 

[MissSkittles]

Regardless of being able to breed them, you do have some beautiful little leos.

 

[Serbianchameleon]

Regardless of being able to breed them, you do have some beautiful little leos.

Thankss

 

[CJ's Exotics]

If you can somehow track their lineage then you might be able to breed them.

 

[Serbianchameleon]

If you can somehow track their lineage then you might be able to breed them.

Ill do my best. Just one question. I read the article but I don’t get what exactly can be wrong with babies? Dont worry, I will not try to find out on my geckos but just curious.

 

[kinyonga]

This might be of interest to you...
https://www.geckoboa.com/leopard-gecko-genetics.html

 

[kinyonga]

https://blog.onlinegeckos.com/so-you-want-to-breed-dos-and-donts-of-breeding-leopard-geckos/
"Don’t mix the 3 albino strains (tremper, bell, rainwater), they are not compatible."

https://www.morphmarket.com/c/reptiles/lizards/leopard-geckos/genetic-calculator/

This is worth a read too...enigma syndrome...
https://geckotime.com/enigma-syndrome/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-62828-9

 

[Serbianchameleon]

I read it all and then I realized my gf is learning genetics right now and she cant get a clue what can be wrong with them. The reason is that the Rainwater albino is simple recessive and Tremper albino is too simple recessive so from calculation from her and her friend from university said that babies cant have any downsides.. I wont jump to conclusions, still researching. Im nit even near to start breeding them.

 

[CJ's Exotics]

For the albino's I don't think there are health issues like with some other dominant morphs, I think the problem is that they can then hide and are untraceable for anyone who purchases the offspring. The only way to then tell their genetics is by breeding them, and even then the offspring can have more hidden genes that are difficult to prove.

 

[Serbianchameleon]

For the albino's I don't think there are health issues like with some other dominant morphs, I think the problem is that they can then hide and are untraceable for anyone who purchases the offspring. The only way to then tell their genetics is by breeding them, and even then the offspring can have more hidden genes that are difficult to prove.

I think if that is the only (ethical) problem everything going to be fine. There are only 2 breeders in Serbia that I know of and I would be the third (extremely small breeder). People here dont even know about morphs and genetic history about geckos, they just want to buy one that looks the best for their taste and have it as a pet. So if nothing can harm the newborns I think I’m okay to do it

 

[CJ's Exotics]

I think if that is the only (ethical) problem everything going to be fine. There are only 2 breeders in Serbia that I know of and I would be the third (extremely small breeder). People here dont even know about morphs and genetic history about geckos, they just want to buy one that looks the best for their taste and have it as a pet. So if nothing can harm the newborns I think I’m okay to do it

As long as they are specifically labeled "Pet Only" then it should be ok. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[Serbianchameleon]

As long as they are specifically labeled "Pet Only" then it should be ok. Just something to keep in mind.

Okay! Thank you, you helped me alot!

 

[CJ's Exotics]

Okay! Thank you, you helped me alot!

Your welcome!