Lethargic Panther Chameleon

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Having some problems with our Chameleon Moojoo.

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Panther, Male, Approx. 5years old, Had him from a baby.
Handling - Rarely
Feeding - Primarily Locusts, with some wax worms as treats. 3-4 Locust every few days. Locust are fed bug grub and fresh fruit and veg.
Supplements - Nutrobal - multi vitamin and calcium once every 2 weeks.
Watering - Misted several times daily using an automatic misting system. Approx. 30sec - 1 min every 4 hours. Never had any issues with the chameleon drinking.
Fecal Description - Light brown with white urates. Slightly softer than usual. He has never been tested for parasites however is captive bred and has not been in contact with other reptiles while in my care.
History - Had him for 5 years, he has always been alert, and active. No change in husbandry. He seems to have a weaker tongue than usual but is still managing to eat.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Natural Terrarium Medium/Wide - 60 x 45 x 45 cm / 24” x 18” x 18” (WxDxH)
Lighting - Duel top canopy with 1 x UVB 5.0 and 1 x UVB 2.0 and 2 x 35w hallogen basking spots. 12hour photo period, 8am - 8pm.
Temperature - Heat mat at the bottom, 2 basking spots at the top as above. Temp during the day is around 25'c. Temp at night is around 20'c. Measured with digital thermometer.
Humidity - Digital hydrometer installed. Humidity around 50%.
Plants - Yes, ficus plant.
Placement - Located in the living room in the corner and has been here for a number of years with no issues. No fans or air vents. The enclosure is around 5ft 6" from the floor.
Location - UK - England

Current Problem - He is hanging upside down a lot or is just balanced without holding on in between his plants. His skin and colour seems drab and not as colourful. He is spending as lot of time at the bottom of his cage. I'm not sure if this is a sign of him getting old or whether there is something more going on.

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Poor Moojoo. I think you should take him to the vets. My guys are getting older and a couple have arthritis and that can make it very hard For them to use their legs without the proper medication.
 
Having some problems with our Chameleon Moojoo.

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Panther, Male, Approx. 5years old, Had him from a baby.
Handling - Rarely
Feeding - Primarily Locusts, with some wax worms as treats. 3-4 Locust every few days. Locust are fed bug grub and fresh fruit and veg.
Does he get any other feeders at all? Silkworms, butterworms, roaches would vary his diet a lot more
Supplements - Nutrobal - multi vitamin and calcium once every 2 weeks.
You should use calcium only at every feed, then the multi vit once every 2 weeks, not sure if thats what you meant? I was also advised not to use Nutrobal with panthers by an experienced panther breeder from the UK as he had seen a lot of problems with swollen necks in the panthers that had been given it. Not sure if u have had any issues?
Watering - Misted several times daily using an automatic misting system. Approx. 30sec - 1 min every 4 hours. Never had any issues with the chameleon drinking.
Fecal Description - Light brown with white urates. Slightly softer than usual. He has never been tested for parasites however is captive bred and has not been in contact with other reptiles while in my care.
History - Had him for 5 years, he has always been alert, and active. No change in husbandry. He seems to have a weaker tongue than usual but is still managing to eat.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Natural Terrarium Medium/Wide - 60 x 45 x 45 cm / 24” x 18” x 18” (WxDxH)
Lighting - Duel top canopy with 1 x UVB 5.0 and 1 x UVB 2.0 and 2 x 35w hallogen basking spots. 12hour photo period, 8am - 8pm.
Temperature - Heat mat at the bottom, 2 basking spots at the top as above. Temp during the day is around 25'c. Temp at night is around 20'c. Measured with digital thermometer.
Why do you have the heat mat? Is this to maintain the ambient temp in the cage? I'm guessing that the above temps are the ambient cage temps? What is his basking spot temp??
Humidity - Digital hydrometer installed. Humidity around 50%.
I'd aim for towards 60-70% - U could increase misting times to help with this?
Plants - Yes, ficus plant.
Placement - Located in the living room in the corner and has been here for a number of years with no issues. No fans or air vents. The enclosure is around 5ft 6" from the floor.
Location - UK - England

Current Problem - He is hanging upside down a lot or is just balanced without holding on in between his plants. His skin and colour seems drab and not as colourful. He is spending as lot of time at the bottom of his cage. I'm not sure if this is a sign of him getting old or whether there is something more going on.

Pictures:
Before
Now
Enclosure

He is a beautiful boy!! Maybe an increase in basking temps would perk him up? I know my boy is much more active now I've increased his temps, AND he eats way more than he used to as he's more active. Without knowing exactly what you mean by info stated above(temps given), it's difficult to say what could be wrong. The fact he has had no issues for a long time though may suggest he is either feeling his age, or he may need to see a vet as Jann says. If you could clarify points above, that would help. Good luck with ur gorgeous boy
 
Hey Guys,

Thank you for all your suggestions and comments.

We have bought a new heat lamp and are looking to buy a better calcium and multi-vitimin supplement.

We'll see how it goes!
 
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