Moringa leave - possible gutload?

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

I am always researching the art of gutloading! I truely believe that one of the main items that contributes to chameleon health and longevity lies in the art of gutloading! I also found for myself that for my own personal human body gutloading affects how I feel quite dramatically! In my search regarding my own body, I wondered upon the Super food Moringa Oleifera! The leaves are an storehouse loaded with nutrients!

I was wondering if anyone here on the forums have ever tried it as a gutload and what all our gutload experts here on the forums think of the possibility of us starting to use it as a gutload!

Everyone join in and let's figure this out! Feedback craved!

Thanks for your time!

 

[Decadancin]

Hmm, do you mean the leaves, seed pods, essential oils, or seed cake after oil extraction?

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

Good question! I meant the cold temperature dried and powdered leaves. But who knows, what ever we figure out to be beneficial to your reptile children's health!

 

[Link]

I just use organic vegetable from like a Whole Foods. And then I get that Cricket crack stuff. From time to time I don't know how serious other people do it. But when I get my order crickets I always make sure they're eating for over a week before I feed to mine. Sometimes you just don't know what they're feeding them

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

Thanks @Link all good ideas, but variety is soooo important for health! I am always looking for more fruits and vegetables to add to my gutload! This thread was actually started with one specific potential gutload item and only that item in mind: MORINGA OLEIFERA!

 

[Link]

I've heard they can eat them and they make good trees for charms

 

[Link]

Never tried it though

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

Nice! Good info! Thanks @Link!

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

I've heard they can eat them and they make good trees for charms

Any idea where I can find some printed material on chameleons and Moringa leaves? Would deeply appreciate it!

 

[bobcochran]

The calcium to phosphorus ratio isn't great. Doesn't mean it's bad, but would have to be used occasionally and the ca/p ratio made up elsewhere.

 

[Link]

Any idea where I can find some printed material on chameleons and Moringa leaves? Would deeply appreciate it!

You can find a lot of it about human consumption not much about chameleons. But I have read a few articles on chameleon consumption. I'll try to find the links

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

Here are some interesting stuff I found about Moringa leave powder.

• 9 times the protein of yogurt
• 10 times the vitamin A of carrots
• 15 times the potassium of bananas
• 17 times the calcium of milk
• 12 times the vitamin C of oranges
• 25 times the iron of spinach

Also, 30 grams of powder contains 601mg of calcium and 61.2mg of phosphorus. That is realy not a bad ratio, nearly 10/1!

 

[Link]

Here are some interesting stuff I found about Moringa leave powder.

• 9 times the protein of yogurt
• 10 times the vitamin A of carrots
• 15 times the potassium of bananas
• 17 times the calcium of milk
• 12 times the vitamin C of oranges
• 25 times the iron of spinach

Also, 30 grams of powder contains 601mg of calcium and 61.2mg of phosphorus. That is realy not a bad ratio, nearly 10/1!

Real good ratio I can really only find about iguanas having it. But I've seen that other people do feed it do chameleons and feeders

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

Real good ratio I can really only find about iguanas having it. But I've seen that other people do feed it do chameleons and feeders

Please share the links! In general, what is ok for iguanas are also ok for chameleons.

 

[Link]

http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/moringa-olifera.78628/

http://www.herpcenter.com/threads/moringa-oleifera-for-my-iguana.15693/

 

[bobcochran]

The site I looked at had phosphorus higher than calcium. If what you found is true it looks pretty good.
I still agree with variety is the best gut load.

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

http://www.sunfood.com/moringa-powder-organic-raw-8oz.html. look under the the tab (a little ways down on the page): The many uses of the Mighty Moringa tree.

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

I was introduced to Moringa and it's be if it's in 2010. Boy was I excited to see it for sale in powder form at our local "Grocery Outlet". And suddenly the chameleon related benefits crossed my mind. Hence this thread!

 

[Link]

Never know what works until you try it. These little guys are nature's Rubik's Cube. Not much information

 

[Matt Vanilla Gorilla]

Anyone else out there who has some feedback they want to add? It is appreciated!