Frankenstein
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tommorow I'm going to another vet for second opinion.I heard oxytocin is good to help her lay her eggs faster,but im not sure if she is prepared to lay eggs yet what is the time before she can lay eggs.
My cham fell from 7 feet
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tommorow I'm going to another vet for second opinion.I heard oxytocin is good to help her lay her eggs faster,but im not sure if she is prepared to lay eggs yet what is the time before she can lay eggs.
jajeanpierre
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Please make sure you have a vet who knows what they are doing.
I can see what looks like a fracture to one vertebrae. If she can't use her back legs, she might have permanent paralysis.
Oxytocin is a hormone that causes contractions (and other things).
If the she has a fractured vertebrae that is causing paralysis, there might be other issues aside from getting these eggs out. She might not have enough nerve function to defecate. There can be a lot more to paralysis than just not being able to use back legs.
If she were mine and paralyzed from a fractured vertebrae, I would have no hesitation about euthanizing.
Good luck and very sorry you are going through this.
carol5208
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They usually lay eggs after about 30 days, but that is after being bred. There is no way to know how long she has had the eggs as they are going to be infertile. I have seen chameleons go for a couple of months on here before laying. Not saying that is a good thing but I know they had eggs for a couple of months.
Frankenstein
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But she moves 10% of her lags and tail ,she can gap with her claws as hard as before,she can twist her tail 2-3 times.The vet told me that is not complete paralysis because she is able to move and grip and that she is going to regenerate.
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jajeanpierre
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That she can move is really good. She probably will get a lot better than she is now.
JoeVet
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I'm not a radiologist but looks like a fracture and poor mineralization. She is going to have a tough time trying to dig a hole and the nerve damage is going to make passing the eggs difficult. Getting those eggs out now may be a good option. Oxytocin can be tried since she is trying but surgery may be needed. Removing the eggs would take pressure off of the fracture and remove the stress of holding all those eggs. It would be better to take them out sooner than to wait till she gets worse.
Would like to hear what ferretinmyshoes thinks.
Would like to hear what ferretinmyshoes thinks.
Frankenstein
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I went for another vet and this one make her an injection I think with calcium he also gave me some vitamins for oral use to stimulate the transit.and he told me to wait few more days to defecate and also told me that is not yet the time to lay eggs.She was in car with me like 3 hours today and I felt her a bit tired with a sunken left eye.I think she is making progress everyday, but small progress.I will do everything to save her, as long as exists the smallest chance on earth for her I'll go for it,I don't even think in euthanazing her
Frankenstein
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JoeVet
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That is good new from the second vet. I also second jajeanpierre's comments. Reptiles have more regenerative abilities so wouldn't count her out just yet. I think the injection of calcium was appropriate. Did you talk about oxytocin? The vet may have wanted to improve her health before doing anything more. Good luck and keep us informed.
jajeanpierre
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I used to breed mini Dachshunds and they have a lot of problems with paralysis from degenerating discs. I've seen dogs that were paralyzed recover. That she has some movement is a good sign. You have all kinds of hurdles in front of you still. The healing could cause swelling that further damages the spine/nerves. You really want her to not move and you don't want to handle her. No climbing. Good luck.Thank you,you gave me so much hope!
Frankenstein
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He have a bit of sunken eyes.Can be from cold?Or from too much staying in the car?I think his motion ability is healing,but he still didint defecate ,and didint eat for 2 days.This could be a problem?
Is he look ok?
Is he look ok?
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jajeanpierre
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He have a bit of sunken eyes.Can be from cold?Or from too much staying in the car?I think his motion ability is healing,but he still didint defecate ,and didint eat for 2 days.This could be a problem?
Is he look ok?
They can go a long time without defecating. If they don't eat, they don't defecate. Pain can cause them to go off their feed. With her back injury, you don't want her moving around. It's a fine line between giving enough pain relief to make them comfortable, but having them feel some pain so they know they are hurt and will take care and protect their injury.
Frankenstein
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tommorow im going again to the vet.She didint slept at all the whole night,her left eye is black,her right hand looks like is dislocated suddenly and she moves her hands wrong.I think she is worse now.Im mixing the calcium powder with water and put it in a syringe and give trough her mouth the same with water and with sunflover oil for her transit.((
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Frankenstein
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She died yesterday,she had internal hemoragy...
jannb
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Frankenstein
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I am so sorry that she didn't make it.
Yes,and I thought she will make it because she started to recover her legs,also she defecate,everything was just fine,and suddenly...
Wowbango
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Frankenstein
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Yes,Im so dissapointed and so sad,she suffered so much.I feel like life is boring without her
jajeanpierre
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I'm sorry.
