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does anyone know if my translucent will get more translucent as he grows? he has a white veil and tail and insideall his legs are white and his toes are translucent 100%
my translucent veiled
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camimom
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never heard of such a thing, can i see a pic?
they are freaking cool.
google them, i call them the frankencham.
and to the OP, how old is he?
if hes under a year, id say possibly. as he develops more.
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he is three months no pics well i do but cant get it to upload sorry
amanda509
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camimom
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If you want to email me your pics, I can upload them for you.
and if hes only 3 months old. i will def go ahead and say he should get more of the white as he gets older.
PM me and i will give you my email address.
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i actually selling him for two hundred to a friend of mine with the condition i get to use him as a stud for my sunburst
camimom
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why are you seling him?
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i promised my best friend i would hold one babys from my girls last clutch she is gettin old and unfotunatly he is the last and just fuke he is trans
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if it were anyone else i would be keepin him believe me
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yes they are amazing i know but as long as i get a clutch from him i will have another hopefully higher trans
camimom
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lumbasammler
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what exactly do you consider as "cool" when talking about making an animal that communicates with colors and patters unable to do so? i think it´s a shame people do such a thing and so not think it´s cool or funny or anything at all!
camimom
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this is not 'making' anything. its a genetic mutation. it occurs in the wild too.
and its not like its cruel or abuse. it is bred out because people enjoy the coloring.
I like trans veileds. I like the markings.
its no different than breeding out colors in panthers. IMO
lumbasammler
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I don´t think that this is to be compared with naturally typical variations of colorations!
Youßre right, it´s a naturally occuring mutation, just like cancer or snakes with two or more heads.
why do you think there are not to many of them seen in the wild?
I´m sure it´s not because this is an especially advantegeous mutation.
Youßre right, it´s a naturally occuring mutation, just like cancer or snakes with two or more heads.
why do you think there are not to many of them seen in the wild?
I´m sure it´s not because this is an especially advantegeous mutation.
camimom
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In the wild, im sure its more rare to see it (obviously since they are easier found by predators (not because they cant blend(which i know they dont, but because the white shows off from the green foliage) and there has been no controlled breeding FOR this gene.
I do not think it is a helpful mutation, but nor do i think it is harmful either. but it has become a more popular mutation, therefore in captivity, people have bred it out more. whether its wrong or right to breed into dominance a genetic mutation i dont know, but its not causing harm to this animal that i am aware of.
and in my opinion, if someone has a panther that has unique colorings, and breeds it, and the sons have the same unique colorings, and they continue to breed out that coloring so that it becomes a dominant trait, i dont see the difference.
the ONLY real difference IMO, is that the trans mutation is not considered a 'normal' appearence.
i do not see a difference from breeding out a trans veiled to get the markings, than breeding out a panther or other species for the same markings.
lumbasammler
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Well, they cannot display any colors in the "translucent" regions, right?
That means they are not able to communicate with other members of their species properly, right?
A panther that has a unique pattern is totally different from that i think
camimom
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As far as I am aware, the trans regions do not change colors.
I do agree that it could hinder communication, However, most trans coloring sticks to the limbs, tail and head.
so the main part tht transmits colors based on communication is the body, which is rarely affected, from many photos I have seen.
Not to mention, coloring is not their only form of communication. There is of course, the head bobbing, hissing, gaping, biting, etc.
(as a side note, not trying to argue, start an argument, or force my opinion, simply stating my opinion in what I hope is a friendly debate
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