New Cham Owner Troubles Feeding
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Hollowhead
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he is a little bit freaky now. he sits at the top staring me with the expression of "hey who you lookin at!" haha yea i relly want to find a live vine somewhere in town but havent been able to find one to my liking yet.
Justin Carl
Avid Member
i always enjoy a crazy branch in my cages.
They tend to be the base. Then i work around them.
Something with wild braches sticking out all over the place.
Strip all the leaves off, then soak in soap and bleach, rinse, and add fake leaves.
They tend to be the base. Then i work around them.
Something with wild braches sticking out all over the place.
Strip all the leaves off, then soak in soap and bleach, rinse, and add fake leaves.
Chamero
New Member
Hey Hollowhead, good to see that you've taken everyones advice on the cage. Bu now about the food. I read that your parents no longer allow crickets in the house. Is there any chance you could get roaches, crickets or anything outside? If you get a heat pad for like $15, it can be done the same as inside. Im pretty sure they are better staples and more nutritious for your cham. If you are going to use the Super worms though, make sure you dust them with calcium every time because there Phosperous to Calcium ratio is near 2:1. What are you dusting with anyway?
dodolah
Retired Moderator
much much better..
boots is one chubby chameleon (in a good way).
i can see he is very well cared by his owner.
my other suggestion is for you to start diversifying your feeder supply.
you don't have to go all crazy but here is what i always have in stock:
1. phoenix worm
2. silk worm (i rear my own- and probably your best bet to have since your mom does not allowed crix in the house. plus, they are much much more nutritious than cricket)
3. Dubia roach (I no longer using crickets. this is the feeder i used to substitute crix. but, i doubt your mom like the idea of having roaches in your house. just to be fair though, dubia is not the same species as common roaches that infest the house. They cannot survive or reproduce when loose in our house. Plus, for a roach, they are surprisingly clean. With crix, i need to clean the cage pretty much everyday to avoid stinky bin.
with roach, this my 1st week rearing them, and i still have a clean cage with absolutely no odor)
4. super worms (rarely use this one.. and only used during emergency when i ran out all of my staples)
Super worms are sufficient for staples. but, the nutrition and the Ca: Phosphor ratio is quite poor (but still better than meal worms and wax worms).
therefore they need to be dusted by supplements be4 served.
and maybe once a month, i will order something different for him depending on the situation (i fed these insect once or twice a week):
1. if he's a bit dehydrated and skinny, i use horn worms
(horn worms can be used as staple too..)
2. if he's too fat and lazy, i use mantis hatchlings
3. if he's on strike, i use house flies to stimulate his excitement again.
4. if I have supplies, i use silk moths after they done mating.
hope that helps
boots is one chubby chameleon (in a good way).
i can see he is very well cared by his owner.
my other suggestion is for you to start diversifying your feeder supply.
you don't have to go all crazy but here is what i always have in stock:
1. phoenix worm
2. silk worm (i rear my own- and probably your best bet to have since your mom does not allowed crix in the house. plus, they are much much more nutritious than cricket)
3. Dubia roach (I no longer using crickets. this is the feeder i used to substitute crix. but, i doubt your mom like the idea of having roaches in your house. just to be fair though, dubia is not the same species as common roaches that infest the house. They cannot survive or reproduce when loose in our house. Plus, for a roach, they are surprisingly clean. With crix, i need to clean the cage pretty much everyday to avoid stinky bin.
with roach, this my 1st week rearing them, and i still have a clean cage with absolutely no odor)
4. super worms (rarely use this one.. and only used during emergency when i ran out all of my staples)
Super worms are sufficient for staples. but, the nutrition and the Ca: Phosphor ratio is quite poor (but still better than meal worms and wax worms).
therefore they need to be dusted by supplements be4 served.
and maybe once a month, i will order something different for him depending on the situation (i fed these insect once or twice a week):
1. if he's a bit dehydrated and skinny, i use horn worms
(horn worms can be used as staple too..)
2. if he's too fat and lazy, i use mantis hatchlings
3. if he's on strike, i use house flies to stimulate his excitement again.
4. if I have supplies, i use silk moths after they done mating.
hope that helps
Hollowhead
New Member
Hey, so with the superworms i pretty much have a certian routine down that seems to work pretty well. so
Rep-Cal phosphorus free calcium with vit d- m-w-f-sunday
Rep-cal Herptivite w/ Beta Carotine T,T, Saturday
it seems to be working pretty well and i have heard that these are some of the better suppliments out there, I am also constantly gut loading the worms with potato,carrot
And keeping crix or roaches outside will be impossible this time of year. kinda snows like every day haha, and we dont have a garrage which makes it even harder
But, i do plan on some time very soon in the future giving a shot at silk worms. its just after reading they seem like they are pretty hard to care for, is this true?
Rep-Cal phosphorus free calcium with vit d- m-w-f-sunday
Rep-cal Herptivite w/ Beta Carotine T,T, Saturday
it seems to be working pretty well and i have heard that these are some of the better suppliments out there, I am also constantly gut loading the worms with potato,carrot
And keeping crix or roaches outside will be impossible this time of year. kinda snows like every day haha, and we dont have a garrage which makes it even harder
But, i do plan on some time very soon in the future giving a shot at silk worms. its just after reading they seem like they are pretty hard to care for, is this true?
dodolah
Retired Moderator
PardalisGirl
Avid Member
Boots is beautiful!
Boots is a very beautiful boy! He has a very nice body structure and has filled out very nicely. I don't care whether he has a tongue problem or not. I would be very proud to own him. You've done a lot of good work improving things. Your cage is very nice and spacious for him. Good deal on putting the basking bulb on top. You can also put a Zoomed Reptisun 10.0 in as your tube light later so the UVB penetrates further into the cage. I use those on my big cages. Hornworms are a good feeder. High in calcium, low in fat and high in moisture content. They are super easy to keep. Buy them in a self contained "pod". You can try Butterworms too. High in calcium and low in fat. Easy to keep. Neither of those things are likely to escape into the house. Both have stimulated the appetite of chams in my house when they get tired of crickets. Congrats on getting advise and using it. Boots has a good home
Boots is a very beautiful boy! He has a very nice body structure and has filled out very nicely. I don't care whether he has a tongue problem or not. I would be very proud to own him. You've done a lot of good work improving things. Your cage is very nice and spacious for him. Good deal on putting the basking bulb on top. You can also put a Zoomed Reptisun 10.0 in as your tube light later so the UVB penetrates further into the cage. I use those on my big cages. Hornworms are a good feeder. High in calcium, low in fat and high in moisture content. They are super easy to keep. Buy them in a self contained "pod". You can try Butterworms too. High in calcium and low in fat. Easy to keep. Neither of those things are likely to escape into the house. Both have stimulated the appetite of chams in my house when they get tired of crickets. Congrats on getting advise and using it. Boots has a good home
S
SuperRad
Guest
If he has a favorite spot inside the enclosure, i would suggest cutting holes in a deli cup and putting it through the screen so that way the bowl sits under him, and the movement may stimulate his appetite. But just as brad says it may just be the winter season. In phoenix AZ where it is a bit warmer, my chams do not seem to have a problem with it being winter, they are still eating as if there is no tomorrow.
You may also go to my site in my signature and go to the diy section for a video on how i place my cup feeder in my enclosures.
You may also go to my site in my signature and go to the diy section for a video on how i place my cup feeder in my enclosures.
Hollowhead
New Member
the only issue i have with the superworm bedding is the place i order from sends the worms in this stupid dirk/bark mixture so it would be very labour intensive to pick like 500 worms out of a little box...
DrewNYC
New Member
i noticed no one said to get that night lite out of there, not needed unless your temps drop below 60 at night, i would definetly keep the food cup closer to him not at the bottom and he is probably sick of supers, my older veiled is very picky and does not eat every day, sometimes every other day!! he loved supers for awhile then will not touch them now.
i think he will enjoy silky's and horn worms plus they really hydrate with all there juices.
his cage looks great, good luck
drew
i think he will enjoy silky's and horn worms plus they really hydrate with all there juices.
his cage looks great, good luck
drew
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