New thread for Chico. 6 month old veiled with mbd
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Jasonansally
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So the vet says he has seen worse. We are hoping for a speedy recovery. He will probably have a few deformities in his arms. But as long as he's happy and healthy that will be fine. We got some calcionate and was supposed to go back in a week for a shot of calcitonin but the vet called when we were on our way home and said that they did a price check and it was $2000!!! So that is out of the question. I think he's going to be alright. Will post a new thread when he is all better. Thanks for all the help and input from everyone. It probably saved his life.
Trace
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I'm glad Chico is on the mend. There are several great threads about MBD and homecare tips so definitely run a search for those.
I do believe you have a ChicA and not a Chico and egg production might be the cause of some of your problems. I've noted this possibility here: https://www.chameleonforums.com/6-month-old-veiled-boy-has-mbd-please-help-142462/
So we can give you the proper information about male vs female care, can you post some clear photos of his/her back feet?
I do believe you have a ChicA and not a Chico and egg production might be the cause of some of your problems. I've noted this possibility here: https://www.chameleonforums.com/6-month-old-veiled-boy-has-mbd-please-help-142462/
So we can give you the proper information about male vs female care, can you post some clear photos of his/her back feet?
Jasonansally
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Here is a thread when we were trying to sex him. This was when he was younger though. I will take some new pics tomorrow. I haven't really payed attention to them since he has gotten sick but I'm pretty sure he has spurs. We have another veiled and it's a female. She is in good health. Here is a pic of her.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/help-i-have-new-baby-vield-has-small-bump-i-can-feel-buy-i-141337/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/help-i-have-new-baby-vield-has-small-bump-i-can-feel-buy-i-141337/
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Kayroxyoursox
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I was going to say that too. My male is about 8 months and has a very pronounced spur. I can see a small one in this picture though and it's confusing me.
JoeVet
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$2000 for a calcitonin injection? Maybe I should go back to private practice. While you can do well with simply correcting the calcium imbalance the calcitonin will speed calcium incorporation to the bones. Did you get x-rays or bloodwork? Let us know how he progresses.
Eric Adrignola
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Not only is that definitely a female, it is showing blue spots with some yellow - classic gravid veiled colors. It's possibly gravid. That would exacerbate any calcium problem it might have.
A male veiled has a very pronounced spur - so much so that it's obvious when they are hatchlings.
In addition to getting proper UVB lighting and calcium supplementation, you will probably need to set up a nest bin for her to lay those eggs. Has she been spending a lot of time on the ground?
A male veiled has a very pronounced spur - so much so that it's obvious when they are hatchlings.
In addition to getting proper UVB lighting and calcium supplementation, you will probably need to set up a nest bin for her to lay those eggs. Has she been spending a lot of time on the ground?
Jasonansally
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No blood work or xrays. And he does stay on the floor because he can't climb without falling. We have another female and the difference in their bodies and veil size/width is completely different. I agree it is hard to tell though
Jasonansally
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Jasonansally
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i'm working on a new bin this one seems too small. Maybe like a small trash can cut to size. Any particular brands of soil I should look for? And I will put some in the little guys cage as well just in case, but I'm pretty sure it's a boy. But I'm not 100%.I guess we'll know for sure if he starts laying eggs.
Eric Adrignola
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The female in the sand in the last picture is going to need to lay those eggs very soon - they've taken a toll on her. the base of her tail is showing it. Make sure the soil is wet enough she can tunnel with out it collapsing in on her.
There's no question, both pics show females. Casque size and shape varies, but coloration, body shape and casque shape/size is vastly different for males. At that age, the mature colors will be obvious.
https://www.google.com/search?q=vei...oTCPj70bLii8cCFQjwgAodgk4N1w&biw=1280&bih=907
There's no question, both pics show females. Casque size and shape varies, but coloration, body shape and casque shape/size is vastly different for males. At that age, the mature colors will be obvious.
https://www.google.com/search?q=vei...oTCPj70bLii8cCFQjwgAodgk4N1w&biw=1280&bih=907
Jasonansally
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This is starting to get really stressful
Jasonansally
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And I understand what you are saying about the differences between male and female and I'm not trying to argue with you. But the little guy does not have any blue or yellow coming in at all. And a much larger casque with a more slender build than our female. I believe the vet we just took him to would have said something if it was a female. Here is a pic I just took. He's starting to shed which I want to take as a good sign.
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Jasonansally
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I found this website very helpful. I will be making a new bin from a storage tote like they have in their picture. And just in case, do the same thing for the little one but I'm really convinced it is a male. Not to imply you don't know what you are talking about, but I have another cham to compare to and there are many differences between the 2. But I've been wrong before so will take the necessary precautions just in case I am wrong.
http://www.muchadoaboutchameleons.com/2012/05/on-specific-care-of-females.html?m=1
http://www.muchadoaboutchameleons.com/2012/05/on-specific-care-of-females.html?m=1
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Eric Adrignola
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I'm not sure if the pictures above that I thought you were calling a male were, in fact, the ones you intended! Maybe I was looking at the female. The last picture you posted isn't showing the spurs, however. Coloration is difficult to go by at certain ages. Males may go through a phase where they show ugly colors except at night. Take a picture at night, when it's sleeping.
