Panacur treatment for intestinal worms

[Billie the Camillie-n]

So i took Billie to the vet a couple of days ago and the Dx her with intestinal worms. They Rx Panacur for treatment. I was wondering if anyone else has used it. If so were there any symptoms? Today is Billies 3rd day on it and she threw up right way. I freaked out becuase it was red,but forgot i gave her sweet red peppers yesterday. I called her vet but they are closed today. Can anyone give me piece of mind and give me some feed back please and thank you!!

 

[jannb]

What kind of parasites? Panacur only work on a few kind of parasitesa.

 

[kinyonga]

Did the vet do a fecal to determine if your chameleon had parasites and what they were?
Panacur is a common antiparasite medication and doesn't usually cause problems.
Did you ease the medication into your chameleon's mouth or squirt it in?

 

[Billie the Camillie-n]

Fecal was performed they didnt not tell me what kind of worms Billie had. I did squirt it in her mouth because thats wat i was told todo...plus its hard to ease in her mouth

 

[bobcochran]

Sounds like a weird dosing schedule- 3 days in a row. Normally dosing is once every 7 or 10 days for 3 doses. The panacur kills only the live feeding parasites, not the eggs. The eggs hatch in 7-10 days. Therefore the 3 doses 7-10 days apart.

 

[Billie the Camillie-n]

They said once a day for 5 days

 

[bobcochran]

First, I'm not a veterinarian. I know Panacur has little side affects when used as I said above, and has been very effective for me for active parasites.
Is your vet a reptile and/or chameleon vet? Maybe this is the "new" regime?

 

[Billie the Camillie-n]

Well he said he was a reptilian vet but every question i asked he couldnt answer...he actually referred me this this web site...smh i was already on this site before i ever went to him.

 

[Billie the Camillie-n]

But he is the only reptile vet anywjere around me...im going to find another but im going to have to drive 2 hrs

 

[kinyonga]

Perhaps since you squirted the meds in that's why your chameleon threw up?
Bobcochran is right about the dose being weird.

 

[jajeanpierre]

Sounds like a weird dosing schedule- 3 days in a row. Normally dosing is once every 7 or 10 days for 3 doses. The panacur kills only the live feeding parasites, not the eggs. The eggs hatch in 7-10 days. Therefore the 3 doses 7-10 days apart.

Bob, standard treatment for chameleons is 3 to 5 days in a row and repeat in 7 to 10 days dosed at 50 mg/kg. (Reptile Medicine and Surgery, Second Edition, Mader, p.1124)

 

[bobcochran]

Janet, I'll take your word for it, I've never been directed to do it that way though. 50 mg/kg is the dosage I use. I'm curious if this regime has more side affects?
I think Panacur is pretty benign on the host animal.

 

[Billie the Camillie-n]

Thanks guys ill try to ease it into her mouth today. But she dose look like shes getting better

 

[Billie the Camillie-n]

Whoo hoooo found another reptile vet here in town! Billie has an appt Friday, they said i can come for a walk in if she needs to be seen sooner.

 

[jannb]

Whoo hoooo found another reptile vet here in town! Billie has an appt Friday, they said i can come for a walk in if she needs to be seen sooner.

Where do you live? I might be able to recommend good chameleon vet.

 

[Billie the Camillie-n]

Amarillo tx ...everyone was recommending Noahs Ark Vet Hospital....i went and would definatly NOT recommend them

 

[jannb]

Amarillo tx ...everyone was recommending Noahs Ark Vet Hospital....i went and would definatly NOT recommend them

Here's a list of reptile vets in TX.

http://thereptilereport.com/texas-reptile-veterinary-directory/

 

[jajeanpierre]

Janet, I'll take your word for it, I've never been directed to do it that way though. 50 mg/kg is the dosage I use. I'm curious if this regime has more side affects?
I think Panacur is pretty benign on the host animal.

You can do a single dose at 50 to 100 mg/kg every 14 days, but normally it is for three to five days in a row. And, yes, I looked it up just for you!

I think it is really easy on them. It works by disrupting the glucose metabolism of the parasite but does not seem to do that for the host.

I just accidentally overdosed some very sick babies and they did just fine. I goofed on a decimal point (I dosed them at .1mls/10g body weight rather than .01mls/10g body weight). I always give a higher dose, so it was more than 10 X the dose they should have gotten. I couldn't believe I had done it. They were very very sick from aflatoxicosis, so sick from the toxin they were just laying on the ground and not able to eat. Some would have convulsions. That's how sick they were before I wormed them. The vets and I discussed whether to worm them when they were so sick from a toxin but their immune systems were compromised by the toxin and we felt the parasites were a tipping point. The vet chickened out of making a decision himself and told me to "use my own judgement" on whether to worm very sick and compromised babies. I decided to worm them and then gave them more than 10 times the correct dosage. Fortunately I realized it on the first day, so a few hours later I force fed them fluids and gave them extra fluids the next day. One or two seemed as if they were made sicker by the over dose of Panacur but that lasted only one day. They all bounced back. I waited two weeks before I gave them a series of three days at the correct dose. If I didn't kill those sick, sick babies with an overdose of Panacur, I think it is pretty hard to hurt them with it. Other species might not be as tough as my quads and graciliors though. Some snakes are quite susceptible to Panacur poisoning at a lower dosage than I gave my babies.

 

[Billie the Camillie-n]

Here's a list of reptile vets in TX.

http://thereptilereport.com/texas-reptile-veterinary-directory/

Those are more south than i am...im in the panhandle of tx thanks though! Hopefully this nwxt vet i take her too is better

 

[kinyonga]

This is how my vet did it. Has the method changed from this?
Orally once and then again in 14 days?
https://books.google.ca/books?id=6N...onepage&q=fenbendazole for chameleons&f=false
http://www.bug-de-lite.com/Panacur Article 2.html