Panther prices?

[jamest0o0]

Just curious… what is a normal price for a panther these days? Including paying a little extra for some standouts/rare locales? I love browsing them online and I see some nice looking panthers that people have up for 1200+? Is that just a ridiculous price or is that somewhat normal nowadays for a standout? I remember back in the day $300 was standard for a nice looking panther with the occasional 400-450 max for something one of a kind.

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

The prices are still going for $125-$400. However from one of my recent Expo Reptile Shows there are vendors selling about the same Ambilobe and Ambanja Furcifer pardalis for up to $800-$1600. My Blue Bar Red Bodied Ambilobe "Enigma" I purchased at around a couple hundred dollarsish and I think has got color patterning that tops the Furcifer pardalis going at top dollar. I think mostly the high prices is what goes in the cooking of the high priced Furcifer pardalis.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/furcifer-pardalis-enigma.192124/

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[laurynholly]

Just curious… what is a normal price for a panther these days? Including paying a little extra for some standouts/rare locales? I love browsing them online and I see some nice looking panthers that people have up for 1200+? Is that just a ridiculous price or is that somewhat normal nowadays for a standout? I remember back in the day $300 was standard for a nice looking panther with the occasional 400-450 max for something one of a kind.

The last reptile expo I went to in November (in white plains NY) is when I bought my ambliobe YBBB panther he was $500 and before I chose him I had my eye on a blurple that was $1,100 and there were a couple other beautiful options within the $800-$1000 range. females they had I think were $200-$300. The breeder was Busy Bs exotics and their chams all looked extremely healthy, bright eyed and active. It feels more worth it to spend the money when you can see them right in front of you and meet the breeder to know they are well bred and healthy. I’d be more weary to order chams online… not before reading plenty of good reviews at least. But at least at the expo I went to it was slim pickings for chams. Busy Bs was the only breeder that strictly has chameleons. There was one or two other tables that had maybe one Cham and they didn’t look nearly as healthy.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Our prices vary depending on locale, age, color, uniformity of pattern and generation from wild caught parents F1,F2 etc. then the demand for individually raised panther chameleon babies has increased the cost a great deal for hatching and raising the babies with there own enclosures,lighting and misting set ups. On average it takes us some were around $275-$400 each to raise and feed well started babies and juveniles to 3 months/12 grams to recommend and bare minimum safe selling age and size of panther chameleon babies. And that price doesn’t even include gut loading ingredients for the feeder insects or the shipping cost on 50,000 crickets a week plus a variety to add just because we love doing it (Silkworms,hornworms,dubia, grasshoppers etc. or the time cleaning cages or multiple Ro system filter replacements a year. Or the purchase and treatment and time to get our breeding wild caught breeders healthy to be able to offer locale specific panther chameleons not color morphed or crossed. The highest priced panther chameleons we have listed is $1200 but that is about the max for a sub adult captive bred individually raised male panther chameleon that has amazing color pattern and matches the standard of locale found in the wild. On average ours are priced from $400 to $750. Those ones you see posted for $2000 and $5000 imo are just greedy people trying to hustle someone on a color morphed chameleon with no justification of price.

 

[jamest0o0]

Thanks everyone. Yeah I feel like with the cost of everything I’m not surprised prices are higher. Just trying to get an idea what’s fair and what’s outrageous. TBH animals should probably cost more anyway so we have less people buying some interesting little ‘object’ and more serious keepers.

 

[Beman]

Thanks everyone. Yeah I feel like with the cost of everything I’m not surprised prices are higher. Just trying to get an idea what’s fair and what’s outrageous. TBH animals should probably cost more anyway so we have less people buying some interesting little ‘object’ and more serious keepers.

FramsChams has amazing babies and I think they offer great prices especially since they have a built reputation. Also a site sponsor! AND they are going to be breeding Nosy Boraha! Which is literally my, oh my god I want it so bad locale.

 

[MzLaurie]

Well I think age comes into play with pricing. The young ones usually go for less then say a full grown Cham which has required more upkeep and expense.

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

I acquired Enigma from Chameleons 101 one of the main Furcifer pardalis breeders here in the Central Valley area. Chameleons 101 has got a great reputation although the owner sells eggs to hatch, a practice I am not fond of. However he had pictures of all the Sir's and Dam's with his chameleons that were for sale.

Actualy the Top Dollar Ambanja Furcifer pardalis for sale at the Expo were not impressive. Their baring was minimal and lacked a lot to pay top dollar for a chameleon. I am of the opinion that when Furcifer pardalis are being sold that way for top dollar, I should hold onto my money and buy a Calumma parsonii ssp..

Enigma turned out great! I am glad I made the choice I made.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich