Pics of our CH Nosy Falys boy

That was the information that was sent to me. They do seem very small for 5 months old.

For pure faly they don't really seem small to me. But notice the others they had posted at the same age were much larger then the ones from this one female you posted males from.

It's hard to tell Lee, because the last photos you posted of more than one of your babies they looked WAY different from the photos Todd posted. If you look at the babies that CNW have posted from the different females they had, there is a BIG difference in the look shown between different clutches which leads me to think there were females from more than one locale in this group of imports. But of course that is all speculative. You can look at 10-15 males from them and you can pretty easily pick which ones are related to each other.

Also I thought all your babies were from the Medusa line? Now I am very confused:confused:
 
No prob. I will get some more pics up soon of the rest..... But I am still confused by your 2 post above and what you have been saying on my threads about my babies all together because there not showing adult colors yet but yet you question mine but chameleon nw have classic faly traits but they are clearly not adults yet........

I said showing traits, I didnt say the were 100% proven Falys. The background color is very light with blue/green bars. The older males you posted were more of a soild color
which brings to mind Nosy Be especially with the yellow.
 
For pure faly they don't really seem small to me. But notice the others they had posted at the same age were much larger then the ones from this one female you posted males from.

It's hard to tell Lee, because the last photos you posted of more than one of your babies they looked WAY different from the photos Todd posted. If you look at the babies that CNW have posted from the different females they had, there is a BIG difference in the look shown between different clutches which leads me to think there were females from more than one locale in this group of imports. But of course that is all speculative. You can look at 10-15 males from them and you can pretty easily pick which ones are related to each other.

Also I thought all your babies were from the Medusa line? Now I am very confused:confused:
These are all from my medusa ch faly line one of the females I got from cham northwest I had another female I lost due to problems but I got a clutch of eggs from her breed with my male ares.
I said showing traits, I didnt say the were 100% proven Falys. The background color is very light with blue/green bars. The older males you posted were more of a soild color
which brings to mind Nosy Be especially with the yellow.
yeah you say that but they are not a year old or adults yet....
 
Mine looks a lot like Texas ranger,s babies, also showing the same traits. Only time will tell
 
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Just wait until they grow up and get their adult colours then we can all have a look and decide. Trying to determine the locale of a chameleon by looks alone isnt getting anyone anywhere. Take Ambilobe as an example and you see many colour changes as they mature which leads me to believe that all locales can do this.

I personally think Lee has Faly and I see all the tell tale signs, but until they mature more and develop their colours, we can all sit and guess at what locale they are and all fall out over this, or we can all be adults and compliment each other on the hard work that has clearly been put into raising Chameleons to such a healthy standard expected from a reputable breeder.
 
Here is my boy, brother to the boy Lee posted. Awful lot of red rain for a nosy be imo... Hes about to shed again too.
 
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Just wait until they grow up and get their adult colours then we can all have a look and decide. Trying to determine the locale of a chameleon by looks alone isnt getting anyone anywhere. Take Ambilobe as an example and you see many colour changes as they mature which leads me to believe that all locales can do this.

I personally think Lee has Faly and I see all the tell tale signs, but until they mature more and develop their colours, we can all sit and guess at what locale they are and all fall out over this, or we can all be adults and compliment each other on the hard work that has clearly been put into raising Chameleons to such a healthy standard expected from a reputable breeder.
Thank you for the complement man...

Here is my boy, brother to the boy Lee posted. Awful lot of red rain for a nosy be imo... Hes about to shed again too.
wow that boy is getting a lot of red rain and it looks like he is getting another trait i see in falys the red arm bands. I cant wait to see him after he sheds



I here 3/5 of the US is suffering drought from lack of rain.

Lmao, it just poured the past two days here! ;)

I can send the rain your way if you want, we get at least an inch a day here at the moment! lol

Yes, are you guys still on hose restriction?

I think so, or it is going to be enforced soon. They think were in a drought, but seriously, theres a reason the UK is so green!!! I think Im beginning to grow gills and webbed feet. :p
And I am lost lol on these 5 comments:eek::p
 
They look 100% Faly to me. I dont know much I just brokered half of the 100% Faly breeders floating around here.

Comments on locale color developement and tendancies should weigh more coming from those experienced in raising the locale. Most Faly pictures on this site are either owners displaying their prized specimine or breeders selling the pics of the litter.

Grain of Salt Lee

I agree. Lee purchased 2 of some of our best Nosy Faly male WC from that group. Their photos are below. They also got 2 of the best females. One of their girls laid eggs for us which were the first to hatch for us some 7 months later. The offspring are pictured below.

In this clutch there was strong genetic variation. That is a scientific, biological, genetic reality that cannot be denied.

As our babies grew and developed we found that yellow backgrounds turned to white with red dots at about 5-6 months. White backgrounds with blue bars sometimes turned to blue backgrounds with blue bars at 5 months. The best ones retained their white backgrounds and developed red dots along with their blue bars. The reds were generally the last color to appear. We are hoping the ones who showed a lot of white early on, and then turned bluer, will likely show the white again as they mature and will very likely show the white when they fire up.

3 of Lee's (pic of female is from the day she arrived):
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finalpicsdscf1004.jpg

nosyfalfem3.jpg


Our offspring from the dam's first clutch in captivity:
falybaby19001.jpg

falybaby19004.jpg

falybaby19006.jpg

falybaby19008.jpg

falybaby19011.jpg

falybaby19028.jpg

falybaby19040.jpg

falybaby19052.jpg


Here is one of them that had a cricket inury as a baby and so became a holdback. He was always white with blue bars and red dots as a baby. For the first 4 months of his life. But now is blue-on-blue with red dots. He is still a Nosy Faly. He didn't suddenly become a Nosy Be just because his colors started to go through a transition. I hope the white will show up again when he is mature or will at least appear when he is fired up. First pic is April, second is May 01, third is May 19, 4th is July.
april04008.jpg

may01011.jpg

may19039.jpg

dorsalholdback.jpg
 
Thank you for posting and shearing your info on falys and my babies.

I agree. Lee purchased 2 of some of our best Nosy Faly male WC from that group. Their photos are below. They also got 2 of the best females. One of their girls laid eggs for us which were the first to hatch for us some 7 months later. The offspring are pictured below.

In this clutch there was strong genetic variation. That is a scientific, biological, genetic reality that cannot be denied.

As our babies grew and developed we found that yellow backgrounds turned to white with red dots at about 5-6 months. White backgrounds with blue bars sometimes turned to blue backgrounds with blue bars at 5 months. The best ones retained their white backgrounds and developed red dots along with their blue bars. The reds were generally the last color to appear. We are hoping the ones who showed a lot of white early on, and then turned bluer, will likely show the white again as they mature and will very likely show the white when they fire up.

3 of Lee's (pic of female is from the day she arrived):
newpicsdscf0857.jpg

finalpicsdscf1004.jpg

nosyfalfem3.jpg


Our offspring from the dam's first clutch in captivity:
falybaby19001.jpg

falybaby19004.jpg

falybaby19006.jpg

falybaby19008.jpg

falybaby19011.jpg

falybaby19028.jpg

falybaby19040.jpg

falybaby19052.jpg


Here is one of them that had a cricket inury as a baby and so became a holdback. He was always white with blue bars and red dots as a baby. For the first 4 months of his life. But now is blue-on-blue with red dots. He is still a Nosy Faly. He didn't suddenly become a Nosy Be just because his colors started to go through a transition. I hope the white will show up again when he is mature or will at least appear when he is fired up. First pic is April, second is May 01, third is May 19, 4th is July.
april04008.jpg

may01011.jpg

may19039.jpg

dorsalholdback.jpg
 
Great Post Elliot! This is Trey from OK by the way. I love your holdback boy, he's pretty handsome!


I agree. Lee purchased 2 of some of our best Nosy Faly male WC from that group. Their photos are below. They also got 2 of the best females. One of their girls laid eggs for us which were the first to hatch for us some 7 months later. The offspring are pictured below.

In this clutch there was strong genetic variation. That is a scientific, biological, genetic reality that cannot be denied.

As our babies grew and developed we found that yellow backgrounds turned to white with red dots at about 5-6 months. White backgrounds with blue bars sometimes turned to blue backgrounds with blue bars at 5 months. The best ones retained their white backgrounds and developed red dots along with their blue bars. The reds were generally the last color to appear. We are hoping the ones who showed a lot of white early on, and then turned bluer, will likely show the white again as they mature and will very likely show the white when they fire up.

3 of Lee's (pic of female is from the day she arrived):
newpicsdscf0857.jpg

finalpicsdscf1004.jpg

nosyfalfem3.jpg


Our offspring from the dam's first clutch in captivity:
falybaby19001.jpg

falybaby19004.jpg

falybaby19006.jpg

falybaby19008.jpg

falybaby19011.jpg

falybaby19028.jpg

falybaby19040.jpg

falybaby19052.jpg


Here is one of them that had a cricket inury as a baby and so became a holdback. He was always white with blue bars and red dots as a baby. For the first 4 months of his life. But now is blue-on-blue with red dots. He is still a Nosy Faly. He didn't suddenly become a Nosy Be just because his colors started to go through a transition. I hope the white will show up again when he is mature or will at least appear when he is fired up. First pic is April, second is May 01, third is May 19, 4th is July.
april04008.jpg

may01011.jpg

may19039.jpg

dorsalholdback.jpg
 
And so theres the proof and my point on my own thread proven. As Faly, or any locale for that matter, mature they go through various colour fazes. I bet when they develop into adults their colours pop through brilliantly, and lets face it, how often do you see pics of Faly that arent fired up??? The blue bars on blue background is perfectly normal and acceptable in a Faly. Not all of them will show the white background, I have seen many many Faly with pale blue backgrounds that turn almost completely white when fired.
 
And so theres the proof and my point on my own thread proven. As Faly, or any locale for that matter, mature they go through various colour fazes. I bet when they develop into adults their colours pop through brilliantly, and lets face it, how often do you see pics of Faly that arent fired up??? The blue bars on blue background is perfectly normal and acceptable in a Faly. Not all of them will show the white background, I have seen many many Faly with pale blue backgrounds that turn almost completely white when fired.

I have seen this, too.
 
Any new pics of these guys? I am very curious to see how they have colored up.

I know he sold some, and doesnt have many left... but i will try to get some pics up of my boy from this clutch this weekend. Theres a couple shots of mine in my "drama faly" thread but prob not the pics your looking for...
 
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