Post your baby Panther tub/container/enclosures

[ColorCham427]

Hey all,

I would like to gather some info. and see how many people on here who hatch and raise strong clutches, more than most ... what do you do for your neonates?

Containers? Groups of 3? Group them ALL in one large container bin?

Individual containers?

Go straight to screen enclosures?

Do you guys like to stick to fruit flies when they just hatch than move up to crickets or...?

House flies?

How often do you water hatchlings? Do you ever spray the hatchling or just around?

How often do you supplement?

Do you toss in a whole bunch of tiny feeders so it will last them? Or... do you toss in a small amount at a time so they don't see too many all at once?

 

[Nicodemayo]

Right out of the egg, I use 15x16x20" fully screened cubes. The back and left and right sides are covered with plastic sheeting (white kitchen trash bags). I would recommend using white instead of black because the white reflects, giving you more light in the cage not only for the plants, but its easy to see where the neonates have rubbed their tiny little poops. Their poo is particularly tiny, and I clean it off whenever I see it. Be sure you do the same or your gonna have problems. Inside the cages, I use small white, wire closet shelves with a sticks zip tied together into a climbing structure. On this shelf, place a potted pothos plant. I put anywhere from 3-5 neonates in each cage. It depends on the size of the neonates. Any more than 5, you end up with tail munchage. Its when they climb over each other is when you get your kinked/missing tails, and bruising from getting bit by their siblings. Depending on the size of the neonates, I start them on d.hydei and 1/8 inch crickets. I feed them as much as they'll eat until they're about 1.5 months old, then I cut back to a couple daily feeding times. Morning and early afternoon. I personally don't supplement until they are about 1.5-2 months old. I have in the past, but I was tired of edema ridden babys, so now I rely strictly on my gutloading prior to 1.5-2months of age, and it has resulted in some beautiful, edema free, baby's. At about a month old, to a month and a half old, you can start using house flies and larger crickets, and other goodies that are appropriately sized for their mouths(dubia nymphs, small terrestial isopods etc). I use 4ft strip lights spanning all my cages that have a reptisun 5.0, and a regular plane jane fluorescent bulb, and a 5.5ich ceramic dome lamps with a 30w spot bulb hanging about 4 inches above each cage. I have been using tap water that sits over night for spraying them, but I am getting a RO unit soon for all of my animals. I have used water straight out of the tap in the past, but I noticed strange eye issues that subsided when I started letting the water sit over night. I have noticed It makes a huge difference. I have even put fish bubblers in my water reservoirs so the water is continuously turning. I spray newborn neonates 3 times a day for about 10 seconds, or long enough to get the top screen covered with water and water beaded on the leaves. I normally with just spray, and if there are any babys climbing on the screen upside down, I spray around them, and when they run away, I spray the area they were for full coverage. That pretty much covers it in a nutshell!

ps-Ill post a photo tomorrow

 

[sandrachameleon]

Q. Containers? Groups of 3? Group them ALL in one large container bin? Individual containers?

A. Initially all together, in fish tanks with screen tops, then thinned to two or three per based on growth/size.

Q. Do you guys like to stick to fruit flies when they just hatch than move up to crickets or...?

A. I start with Fruit flies (two types grown in various mediums), pinheads, baby silkworms, baby supers, baby terrestrial isopods, aphids, baby stick insects, small grain moths

Q. How often do you water hatchlings? Do you ever spray the hatchling or just around?

A. Spray sides of tank and plants, not directly onto hatchlings (if i can help it). 3-6 times per day.

Q. How often do you supplement?

A. Calcium on all crickets and About half the fruit flies. Nothing on the other feeders. Vitamins weekly, on a few bugs. D3 weekly on only a few bugs each. I gutload the bugs.

A. I put in only as many bugs as they are able to eat up in less than 15 minutes. I feed 3-6 times per day.

 

[ColorCham427]

thank you, you two for your input! very much appreciated!

 

[jannb]

Right out of the egg, I use 15x16x20" fully screened cubes. The back and left and right sides are covered with plastic sheeting (white kitchen trash bags). I would recommend using white instead of black because the white reflects, giving you more light in the cage not only for the plants, but its easy to see where the neonates have rubbed their tiny little poops. Their poo is particularly tiny, and I clean it off whenever I see it. Be sure you do the same or your gonna have problems. Inside the cages, I use small white, wire closet shelves with a sticks zip tied together into a climbing structure. On this shelf, place a potted pothos plant. I put anywhere from 3-5 neonates in each cage. It depends on the size of the neonates. Any more than 5, you end up with tail munchage. Its when they climb over each other is when you get your kinked/missing tails, and bruising from getting bit by their siblings. Depending on the size of the neonates, I start them on d.hydei and 1/8 inch crickets. I feed them as much as they'll eat until they're about 1.5 months old, then I cut back to a couple daily feeding times. Morning and early afternoon. I personally don't supplement until they are about 1.5-2 months old. I have in the past, but I was tired of edema ridden babys, so now I rely strictly on my gutloading prior to 1.5-2months of age, and it has resulted in some beautiful, edema free, baby's. At about a month old, to a month and a half old, you can start using house flies and larger crickets, and other goodies that are appropriately sized for their mouths(dubia nymphs, small terrestial isopods etc). I use 4ft strip lights spanning all my cages that have a reptisun 5.0, and a regular plane jane fluorescent bulb, and a 5.5ich ceramic dome lamps with a 30w spot bulb hanging about 4 inches above each cage. I have been using tap water that sits over night for spraying them, but I am getting a RO unit soon for all of my animals. I have used water straight out of the tap in the past, but I noticed strange eye issues that subsided when I started letting the water sit over night. I have noticed It makes a huge difference. I have even put fish bubblers in my water reservoirs so the water is continuously turning. I spray newborn neonates 3 times a day for about 10 seconds, or long enough to get the top screen covered with water and water beaded on the leaves. I normally with just spray, and if there are any babys climbing on the screen upside down, I spray around them, and when they run away, I spray the area they were for full coverage. That pretty much covers it in a nutshell!

ps-Ill post a photo tomorrow

Nic; Please post some pics of your baby cages. I'm going to get my hubby to build some for me for Luie & Camille's babies. Thanks!!!!!