Quad vs. deremensis
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Zajlol
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I have had both and my completely unbiased opinion is quads are better cause I love them.
Haha are they are really cool looking which one gets bigger out of the two?
PantherEnvy
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I own Quads but I am going to get a deremensis breeding pair next. Does that help?
It will almost be like asking; "do I want a benz or a beamer next...hum?"
It will almost be like asking; "do I want a benz or a beamer next...hum?"
Zajlol
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I own Quads but I am going to get a deremensis breeding pair next. Does that help?
It will almost be like asking; "do I want a benz or a beamer next...hum?"
Helps yes haha how big are your quads?
laurie
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I own Quads but I am going to get a deremensis breeding pair next. Does that help?
It will almost be like asking; "do I want a benz or a beamer next...hum?"
That is true, it is also true, I no longer have deremensis. So did I give up the benz or beamer? Hubby is pretty fond of beamers.
reptoman
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I dont have a lot of experience but I have heard from some people in TX that it is very difficult to keep quads healthy due to hot dry summers. I've got a pair of Deremensis and they are doing great so far. They can stand higher temps than the quads from what i understand. Their cages get to around 82F max at the top and as long as they have extra mistings it does not seem to be an issue. I would think Vegas might be similar during the summer so something to consider.
Canny Chams
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QUADS!!!! enough said......
Canny Chams
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in toronto we have extremely dry winters, and we can still handle quads
Zajlol
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Thanks the summers here are dry and hot but I'm keeping them inside.
reptoman
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I dont doubt you can handle quads in toronto. You dont have summers that have 115F for 30 days in a row. Humidity is easier to control in a room during that kind of summer but runing your AC to keep a temp of 75 or lower during the day and night time drops into the 60s is near impossible here. Thats why I have heard of so many attempts to keep quads have failed. Just repeating what i have heard from other keepers. This is the only reason I do not have a quad now. They were my first choice but I would not trade in my T. Deremensis now that I have had them for several months.
laurie
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I am sure glad I sent you the right kind. And I am really happy you enjoy them.
reptoman
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I am too, Laurie! This pair has become my favorite! I still need to get you a mesquite bowl
Do you agree with the difference in temps between the 2 being discussed? I dont want to throw out misinformation but I also would like to help someone avoid killing their cham. Not trying to hijack the thread but I think its relavent to the topic. Other Vegas keepers might chime in if they have an opinion or personal experience. I was talking about keeping them inside as well. Quads require lower temps inside than I am able to provide through a summer.
Do you agree with the difference in temps between the 2 being discussed? I dont want to throw out misinformation but I also would like to help someone avoid killing their cham. Not trying to hijack the thread but I think its relavent to the topic. Other Vegas keepers might chime in if they have an opinion or personal experience. I was talking about keeping them inside as well. Quads require lower temps inside than I am able to provide through a summer.
laurie
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I am too, Laurie! This pair has become my favorite! I still need to get you a mesquite bowl
Do you agree with the difference in temps between the 2 being discussed? I dont want to throw out misinformation but I also would like to help someone avoid killing their cham. Not trying to hijack the thread but I think its relavent to the topic. Other Vegas keepers might chime in if they have an opinion or personal experience. I was talking about keeping them inside as well. Quads require lower temps inside than I am able to provide through a summer.
Brian you are spot on. That is part of what I only keep quads and mellers. I keep it a bit cool for deremensis. I would think your care on them makes them think they went to heaven when I put them in a box.
reptoman
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I keep my T. Deremensis pair in the same room with my panthers and 82 is reached wthout using a basking lamp. The 2 bulb flourescent is enough to get the top of the cage in the low 80s and the bottom in the low to mid 70s. When I had a basking light on their cage it got too hot for them. I also have to mist twice as much for the deremensis as for the furcifer paradalis and run a dripper for longer. I mist their cages 4-5 times daily. They drink pretty heavily compared to panthers. They also need a more heavily planted cage so they can hide. They tend to stress if they dont have enough foliage.
Zajlol
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So what kind of lights do you use?
reptoman
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I use a Reptisun 5.0 UVB and a 6500K in a 48" T8 fixture. Its placed over 2 cages about 3-4" above the screen.
Canny Chams
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you would be extremely surprised at the temp in DOWNTOWN toronto, we have a little barrier there, our winters never get within 10 degrees of how cold it is just kilomters outside the city, and the summers get so extreme, we have had days where it gets up to 45 celcius (about 115 fahrenheit) and stays there for days along with the deathly humidity that stays in the 80s constantly, ive been to texas many times, the heat there is different its dry, when you get that hot, and its humid, its even worse than dry
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