Question about Fogger and Mister

[rotadennis]

So i'm building a custom enclosure for my brand new panther chameleon from canvas chameleons and know a lot of people are Die hard MistKing, but tbh I wanna try and save a few bucks since I'm already over 800 dollars between the cage and the chameleon so I was thinking of buying a vicks vapor humidifier with some tubing and using that as a fogger than I planned on purchasing a Chameleon cantina drinking fountain the 4w X 11L x 4.5H so it'll be pretty big drinking source. So my question is could I maybe get away without having to buy the mistking setup if I plan to manually mist every so often especially when he starts to shed.?

 

[Replife]

So if your cham will drink from that yea it would work as far as hydration goes but I would not think of that as a permanent water solution they also need water mist to clean there eyes and help cool them down I have a monsoon rs400 and ppl have complained about them but mine has been great and you could probably get one off eBay pretty cheap and I'm not 100% sure about a panther i have a vailed but if the humidity is 40-55 there is no need to have a humidifier when my mister spray's my humidity spikes to 80 then drops to 45-50 before it mist's again so I never use my humidifier so you could maybe save enough money on them two things to get a monsoon... just an idea

 

[rotadennis]

So if your cham will drink from that yea it would work as far as hydration goes but I would not think of that as a permanent water solution they also need water mist to clean there eyes and help cool them down I have a monsoon rs400 and ppl have complained about them but mine has been great and you could probably get one off eBay pretty cheap and I'm not 100% sure about a panther i have a vailed but if the humidity is 40-55 there is no need to have a humidifier when my mister spray's my humidity spikes to 80 then drops to 45-50 before it mist's again so I never use my humidifier so you could maybe save enough money on them two things to get a monsoon... just an idea

Yeah I was thinking of getting the monsoon rs400, but like you said i've seen so many people complaining about them it scares me. I just heard they break down fast. Do you know if they can run dry like the mistkings?

 

[Replife]

No clue never let it run dry b4

 

[rotadennis]

No clue never let it run dry b4

Yeah I don't plan to, but I'm just curious for a just in case. How loud is the monsoon pump?

 

[Replife]

But I have let it get so low it was sucking air with water once but no problems it's simple as plug and play nothing to set up and you don't have to make your own water Reservoir like you do with the mist king the actual spray nozzles are louder than the pump but I really don't notice either one it's not like crazy loud but you can hear it

 

[Peachypink]

So i'm building a custom enclosure for my brand new panther chameleon from canvas chameleons and know a lot of people are Die hard MistKing, but tbh I wanna try and save a few bucks since I'm already over 800 dollars between the cage and the chameleon so I was thinking of buying a vicks vapor humidifier with some tubing and using that as a fogger than I planned on purchasing a Chameleon cantina drinking fountain the 4w X 11L x 4.5H so it'll be pretty big drinking source. So my question is could I maybe get away without having to buy the mistking setup if I plan to manually mist every so often especially when he starts to shed.?

I have the cantina and I took it out. It got slimy fast, even changing the water daily and cleaning it once a week. It was very hard to clean and can get mold built up in the tubing. I literally only used it for a month. It also vibrated quite a bit.

The humidifier will add humidity but they really need a spray source to let the water build up on the leaves for drinking and to clean out their eyes. There is another school of thought that you can do the humidifier and a dripper and then just make sure to give him a shower of at least 30 minutes twice a week for cleaning out their eyes. The dripper will give them the drinking source.

Personally I have a mistking, but I just got it this year. I've kept chams for years without one. I would hand spray with a pressure sprayer 3-4 times a day. I am so thankful I got the mistking, it makes things way easier. To me it is a vital part of my husbandry now and I wish I had done it years ago.

 

[rminnis]

Climist mist system is exactly the same thing and is cheaper both are worth the money!

 

[Angelwolf]

Climist mist system is exactly the same thing and is cheaper both are worth the money!

Never heard of this. Where can you get it?

 

[Replife]

Never heard of this. Where can you get it?

Climist.com

 

[rminnis]

Yeah it was on sale when i bought mine 109 free 2 day shipping the guy that runs it has excellent customer service! It is really great i have 1 pump controlling two different enclosures it has worked perfectly for 5+ months using distilled water only and my chams love it.

 

[rminnis]

and when i say its the same thing i mean it ! its got the same fittings, pump, tubing, and I think Climist actually has more options for nozzles they both are easy to setup and use and come with timers the climist timer works great.

 

[Ad'z]

So i'm building a custom enclosure for my brand new panther chameleon from canvas chameleons and know a lot of people are Die hard MistKing, but tbh I wanna try and save a few bucks since I'm already over 800 dollars between the cage and the chameleon so I was thinking of buying a vicks vapor humidifier with some tubing and using that as a fogger than I planned on purchasing a Chameleon cantina drinking fountain the 4w X 11L x 4.5H so it'll be pretty big drinking source. So my question is could I maybe get away without having to buy the mistking setup if I plan to manually mist every so often especially when he starts to shed.?

I have managed to build my own diy misting system for around £30 all from bits of eBay. I was in the same position as you and thought "I don't really want to spend more money on a misting system as they aren't cheap". I then thought its only a water pump and some piping with nozzles ect. So me and my diy head came up with a plan and off I went shopping on eBay. I wasn't sure what sort of size water pump I needed at first so I bought what I though was plenty for flow rate but got it wrong. You also had to pay attention to the "head height" spec's that the pump could reach as you will be going from the ground to the top of the vivarium with irrigation piping. I bought a 800 litres an hour submersible small fish pond pump and a 3.5 litre water container (you can see where I'm going here). When I received the pump and water container I tested it and basically the pump sucked all the water out in about 10 seconds, so I thought "that's not going to work". So back to eBay......

I then looked more into a 12 volt water pump and came across the perfect little thing. It's a 6/12 volt air/water pump (doesn't matter if it runs dry) with a flow rate of 1 to 3 litres per MINUTE as the other pump used nearly 13 litres a minute. This pump is not submersible so it has to be mounted somewhere and is VERY QUIET when running. This pump also had the head height of 3 meters and a suction range of 2 meters which was more than enough. So then I bought a larger 10 litre water container/bucket with a lid.
Then I looked into the actual misting system it's self and came across a greenhouse irrigation misting system with piping, 20 nozzles, joiners and a hose pipe adapter and thought "that should do the job" All items so far have cost around £5 to £7.
I then thought about water temperature and thought a fish tant water heater will work well with keeping the water warm when it mists the cage. Once again I found a 25 watt small water heater on a bay for around £5. The next thing is a 12 volt transformer plug you need for the water pump. As I have many things in my shed and I new what I was doing with regards to voltage ect (it's not hard) I already had many different types of voltage transformer plugs from old phone chargers and electrical goods in the past.
So the water pump can run between 6 volt and 12 volt depending how much pressure you want, I had a 6, 9 and 12 volt plug spare to experiment with. So everything arrived and i tested it all first and everything worked as I wanted- lovely. Another quick thing I bought were some 4mm 45 degree irrigation bends so the pipes had no kinks when you bend it in the cage.
So I cut all the irrigation piping to the right size, as I had 30 meters of it I had plenty spare if I went wrong. A hint with the irrigation piping is to light the ends with a lighter to heat the pipe up as its made from a hard pvc plastic and then slip it over the connectors and it bonds on tight as it cools down. I only put 4 of the 20 nozzles on in my cage, two down each side. After putting the piping where I or you want it and succouring it to the cage which I done with some small amounts of silicone glue and let it set in place with sticky tape over night.
So next was the pump, water container and heater......easy. Put the water heater in the tub, I had to extend my lead on the water heater as it wouldn't reach the plug. If your good at diy and put your mind to it anything can be done. I've set the water temperature to 30 as I think that's a nice temp. I soldered a positive and a neagatve wire onto the water pump and put some heat shrink around the ends. I then joined the wires up with a 6 volt transformer plug as 12 volt had to much pressure inside the cage with the 4 nozzles. I had to put a bit piping from the pump ends into the irrigation piping as the irrigation piping is 4mm and the pipe ends were about 6/8mm (can't remember). Once again if your good with your mind you could make it join up in many ways.
So I put the water in and it all works fine. Next thing was a timer that done seconds and minutes. I found one for £25 which cost as much as all the kit I bought for the misting system! If your not happy with the nozzles/mist (which I am) as they are NOT adjustable there are many different nozzles on the market that either mist, spray or drip.
Sorry to make this such a long read but if you want a cheap diy misting system this is what I would do for half the price of a mist king? Does the mistking system heat the water up? The mistking is a plug and play system ready to go but if like me you have the time and know how to make your own for less the why not? I try get some pics up of the bits I bought. Comments or questions are welcome.

 

[Ad'z]

A few pics of the water bucket with heater, pump set up and timer. I might also put and air bubbler in the water to keep it moving and oxygenated. Oh and I'm using filtered water as I'm not sure which water is best for veilds? Any help on that would be great. I don't fancy giving him tap water and I'm not sure about rain water so filtered water it is for the time being. I'm picking him up in about 10 hours....... I should be in bed asleep.....

 

[Replife]

A few pics of the water bucket with heater, pump set up and timer. I might also put and air bubbler in the water to keep it moving and oxygenated. Oh and I'm using filtered water as I'm not sure which water is best for veilds? Any help on that would be great. I don't fancy giving him tap water and I'm not sure about rain water so filtered water it is for the time being. I'm picking him up in about 10 hours....... I should be in bed asleep.....

Good use of your God given brain and R.O water is best (reverse osmosis)

 

[Ad'z]

What is this water? Where or how do I get it? Is it known as distilled?

 

[Replife]

What is this water? Where or how do I get it? Is it known as distilled?

No it's the only way to filter water to 99.9% pure you can buy a ro system for your home or if you r like me and rent you would have to go to some where like Walmart Lowe's or some other places that have a water exchange in the front of the store Walmart here also sells ro water by the gallon for 88 cent's

 

[nick barta]

Panthers don't need foggers, you risk Upper Respiratory infections.

CHEERS!

Nick

 

[rotadennis]

I have managed to build my own diy misting system for around £30 all from bits of eBay. I was in the same position as you and thought "I don't really want to spend more money on a misting system as they aren't cheap". I then thought its only a water pump and some piping with nozzles ect. So me and my diy head came up with a plan and off I went shopping on eBay. I wasn't sure what sort of size water pump I needed at first so I bought what I though was plenty for flow rate but got it wrong. You also had to pay attention to the "head height" spec's that the pump could reach as you will be going from the ground to the top of the vivarium with irrigation piping. I bought a 800 litres an hour submersible small fish pond pump and a 3.5 litre water container (you can see where I'm going here). When I received the pump and water container I tested it and basically the pump sucked all the water out in about 10 seconds, so I thought "that's not going to work". So back to eBay......

I then looked more into a 12 volt water pump and came across the perfect little thing. It's a 6/12 volt air/water pump (doesn't matter if it runs dry) with a flow rate of 1 to 3 litres per MINUTE as the other pump used nearly 13 litres a minute. This pump is not submersible so it has to be mounted somewhere and is VERY QUIET when running. This pump also had the head height of 3 meters and a suction range of 2 meters which was more than enough. So then I bought a larger 10 litre water container/bucket with a lid.
Then I looked into the actual misting system it's self and came across a greenhouse irrigation misting system with piping, 20 nozzles, joiners and a hose pipe adapter and thought "that should do the job" All items so far have cost around £5 to £7.
I then thought about water temperature and thought a fish tant water heater will work well with keeping the water warm when it mists the cage. Once again I found a 25 watt small water heater on a bay for around £5. The next thing is a 12 volt transformer plug you need for the water pump. As I have many things in my shed and I new what I was doing with regards to voltage ect (it's not hard) I already had many different types of voltage transformer plugs from old phone chargers and electrical goods in the past.
So the water pump can run between 6 volt and 12 volt depending how much pressure you want, I had a 6, 9 and 12 volt plug spare to experiment with. So everything arrived and i tested it all first and everything worked as I wanted- lovely. Another quick thing I bought were some 4mm 45 degree irrigation bends so the pipes had no kinks when you bend it in the cage.
So I cut all the irrigation piping to the right size, as I had 30 meters of it I had plenty spare if I went wrong. A hint with the irrigation piping is to light the ends with a lighter to heat the pipe up as its made from a hard pvc plastic and then slip it over the connectors and it bonds on tight as it cools down. I only put 4 of the 20 nozzles on in my cage, two down each side. After putting the piping where I or you want it and succouring it to the cage which I done with some small amounts of silicone glue and let it set in place with sticky tape over night.
So next was the pump, water container and heater......easy. Put the water heater in the tub, I had to extend my lead on the water heater as it wouldn't reach the plug. If your good at diy and put your mind to it anything can be done. I've set the water temperature to 30 as I think that's a nice temp. I soldered a positive and a neagatve wire onto the water pump and put some heat shrink around the ends. I then joined the wires up with a 6 volt transformer plug as 12 volt had to much pressure inside the cage with the 4 nozzles. I had to put a bit piping from the pump ends into the irrigation piping as the irrigation piping is 4mm and the pipe ends were about 6/8mm (can't remember). Once again if your good with your mind you could make it join up in many ways.
So I put the water in and it all works fine. Next thing was a timer that done seconds and minutes. I found one for £25 which cost as much as all the kit I bought for the misting system! If your not happy with the nozzles/mist (which I am) as they are NOT adjustable there are many different nozzles on the market that either mist, spray or drip.
Sorry to make this such a long read but if you want a cheap diy misting system this is what I would do for half the price of a mist king? Does the mistking system heat the water up? The mistking is a plug and play system ready to go but if like me you have the time and know how to make your own for less the why not? I try get some pics up of the bits I bought. Comments or questions are welcome.

GOOD GOD.. I really appreciate the depth you went to in explaining everything and even looking everything up. I'm sure this needs to be posted somewhere because I've seen a lot of people searching for DIY misters

 

[Replife]

GOOD GOD.. I really appreciate the depth you went to in explaining everything and even looking everything up. I'm sure this needs to be posted somewhere because I've seen a lot of people searching for DIY misters

I agree 100%