Rescued chameleon gender?

[Chamy124]

Recently rescued a veiled chameleon that was not very well looked after, not sure that he’s ever had a uvb light and kept in a small enclosure
Have just broke the bank and sorted him a new enclosure with required lights,space ect

Was told this chameleon is a 3 year old male but from hours of watching videos/research
(Had no knowledge of chameleons before a few weeks ago) I’m starting to think the chameleon has more visual traits of a female veiled as it is smaller and has a smaller horn/veil
Also colouring seems to be more to that of a female as seen they are not as bright as males

Not sure if these differences are because of gender or growth stumps because of lack of care/uvb

have attached photos if people can help with gender

 

[Ambilobe123]

Can you please post some photos of the back of the feet, so we can see the tarsal spurs/lack of them? Looks female, but I’m not sure without spurs.

 

[GrayMadder]

Can you please post some photos of the back of the feet, so we can see the tarsal spurs/lack of them? Looks female, but I’m not sure without spurs.

Wouldn't the cham have produced eggs by 3 yrs old if it was a she?

 

[Chamy124]

Hi this is unfortunately the best picture I can get as trying not to disturb as moved enclosure yesterday, thanks for your help

 

[GrayMadder]

@Beman @kinyonga

 

[Chamy124]

Wouldn't the cham have produced eggs by 3 yrs old if it was a she?

unfortunately we have been given been given very little information on its background,
From the condition we received the Cham in, it was clearly neglected/previous owner paid no attention so this could well be the case and gone unnoticed

 

[Serbianchameleon]

Definitely a female. And she looks chubby.. do you have a laying bin?

 

[Chamy124]

Definitely a female. And she looks chubby.. do you have a laying bin?

Okay Thankyou, not as of yet as we were told by previous owner that she is male will search a thread and do my research for laying now

 

[Serbianchameleon]

Okay Thankyou, not as of yet as we were told by previous owner that she is male will search a thread and do my research for laying now

Yeah I’m not sure but she has a big stomach. You can research the threads here about making the laybin I dont have the link of it sorry.. wish you luck!

 

[MissSkittles]

If you are able, since she came from improper husbandry I personally would take her for a wellness vet check. Have a radiograph done to see how her bones look and if she has any eggs. Have a fecal check for parasites while you’re at it. Just my opinion.

 

[Pickle-cham]

I second a visit to the vet for a wellness check, the rib bumps, bowed legs jaw shape looks to be some degree of m.b.d to me.
Is she eating& are you giving supplements ?

 

[Chamy124]

I second a visit to the vet for a wellness check, the rib bumps, bowed legs jaw shape looks to be some degree of m.b.d to me.
Is she eating& are you giving supplements ?

She has been eating plenty and have been giving calcium powder on wax worms and gut loading crickets, as I said only got her a couple days ago but 3 years of neglect have not been nice to her but we’re gunna do our best for her

 

[Serbianchameleon]

She has been eating plenty and have been giving calcium powder on wax worms and gut loading crickets, as I said only got her a couple days ago but 3 years of neglect have not been nice to her but we’re gunna do our best for her

Dont feed wax worms they are really low in nutrition. Feed dubias, hornworms, superworms, silkworms, crikcets, locusts, red runner roaches..

 

[GrayMadder]

She has been eating plenty and have been giving calcium powder on wax worms and gut loading crickets, as I said only got her a couple days ago but 3 years of neglect have not been nice to her but we’re gunna do our best for her

What type of calcium powder ? With or without d3?

 

[Chamy124]

Dont feed wax worms they are really low in nutrition. Feed dubias, hornworms, superworms, silkworms, crikcets, locusts, red runner roaches..

We also have these others, they were just one example, thanks though

 

[Pickle-cham]

Ok plain calcium is good to start with because you dont know what the supplement history is if any then look into a supplement regime suited to your t5ho lighting

 

[Beman]

This is a female that is overweight. But also she has Edema... I do not like the look of her limbs either I can not tell if they are swollen or just that fat.

Can you please give specifics on the supplements your using and how often? Post pics of the ones your using. The edema is from incorrect supplementation. Edema is the swelling below her neck and around the neck.

 

[kinyonga]

I would get a lay bin IN her cage ASAP...here's how to set one up....


As @Beman said, she does have edema...could be a number of reasons why.

She also has bumps on her ribs....maybe calcium buildup from improper supplementing.

I'm hoping she has no reproductive issues. Do you know if she ever laid eggs or when the las time she laid eggs was?

 

[cruz.m]

Recently rescued a veiled chameleon that was not very well looked after, not sure that he’s ever had a uvb light and kept in a small enclosure
Have just broke the bank and sorted him a new enclosure with required lights,space ect

Was told this chameleon is a 3 year old male but from hours of watching videos/research
(Had no knowledge of chameleons before a few weeks ago) I’m starting to think the chameleon has more visual traits of a female veiled as it is smaller and has a smaller horn/veil
Also colouring seems to be more to that of a female as seen they are not as bright as males

Not sure if these differences are because of gender or growth stumps because of lack of care/uvb

have attached photos if people can help with gender

No fake plants for veileds, definitely go to the vet! You don’t want the basking bulb inside the enclosure, you can use a dome fixture and place it above. You need to set up a laying bin as well, she looks very obese, and she doesn’t appear to be very healthy. Read through this entire link and go through the website as well! https://chameleonacademy.com/veiled-chameleon-care/
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