Scammer?

Pure said:
Trevor, I can't speak for the chameleon industry but I would imagine it's pretty much the same as what I've dealt with. In the tropical fish import bis you really need to have someone introduce you to the right people. For instance I had a friend who owns the largest aquarium shop in the north east. Pete Mang is his name, he introduced me to the group of importers he goes through in South Florida who in return gave me all the email contact info for the exporters in South America. Funny thing about that...no one down there has a phone but everyone has an email addy....go figure:rolleyes:

No offense to any one here, but fish people seem to be a little more willing to help in this regard. I guess it's because there is so much competition that having a new guy trying the bis out isn't going to effect them one way or the other. Not to mention the market for aquarium fish is quit a bit larger than the chameleon market.
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:) thanks!
 
Dear sir, thank you for reply. On behalf of me I would like to import that you do not go this route.
Best Regards
 
Julirs said:
Please tell me why-WHY-would you order all of those CB Panthers from some dude in Cameroon?
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Seriously why buy panthers from there?? Im the panther man.... you can order through me. I would need a deposit of 1000 dollars to make sure you are really interested. The panthers cham won't be ready til april. Sir if its too long of a wait I can speed things up if you leave me $1500 dollars. You can paypal me since Im in the U.S.
 
I think the worst scammer and most stupid scammer was the one I came across.

He was selling 3 pairs of Mt. Meru`s but in the ad he said something like my CB`s are better than any fresh imports or newly HATCHLINGS.
Now most of us know that jacksons dont lay eggs so I emailed him just to mess with him.

I got him to send me pictures, and he sent pictures of what looked like xantholophus and not Mt. Meru`s, but in the ad there is a picture of a female meru.

Anyway I said to him you know that jacksons do not lay eggs and he just said to me he knows what he has and they did.

Then a few days later he says to me you promised to pay the money by today if you dont do it I will sell them off.

After that I just left it because he was just getting annoying
 
I don't think this is real. WC? or CB? No answer...
Most of the prompts I get in my junk mail is from Camaroon...all Cham related.

I vote scam.

If I'm wrong, I'll sell you my best Panther when it hatches for 1 dollar. Promise. :)
 
Lol you dont need to do that if hes not a scammer. I am stil talking to him because i want him to tell me the steps he takes, but all he says is money paperwork then chams. I dont think its that simple thats why it is a scam.
 
Fearaffect said:
LOL

I my rates are cheap and he lives close by.......my attack Chams will get the job done quickly and he wont even have a chance to scream......
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Pure lives close to you?.. Since when did Florida float over to the West Coast?
 
i think the same as Syn, thats copyed and pasted directly from FLChams :eek: nowhere else has Mt.Kenya Jacksons! ive looked everywhere :mad:
 
I originally got mine because I was buying fish from Thailand and China, and it just cost way too much to use a trans shipper for the quantity I was bringing in for my breeding programs. Then once I found the people I needed to talk to I started going to the source in South America. 40 dollar plecos go for 3 bucks each when you place a minimum order of 1.5-2K.

More money in importing than breeding them, that's for sure.

Notice the price for the license isn't all that much. If you don't wish to get the license you may want to talk to some of my trans shipper fish connections and see if they would be interested in bringing them in for you. Their services are a nominal charge. Or just talk to Cain. :p We all know he is willing to do this, and does a damn good job of it. I know he would be able to handle the task better than inexperienced fish folk.

And old??huh I'm not old. :p Well not as old as I feel some days. lol

I just believe in the sharing of information.
 
Pure said:
I originally got mine because I was buying fish from Thailand and China, and it just cost way too much to use a trans shipper for the quantity I was bringing in for my breeding programs. Then once I found the people I needed to talk to I started going to the source in South America. 40 dollar plecos go for 3 bucks each when you place a minimum order of 1.5-2K.

More money in importing than breeding them, that's for sure.

Notice the price for the license isn't all that much. If you don't wish to get the license you may want to talk to some of my trans shipper fish connections and see if they would be interested in bringing them in for you. Their services are a nominal charge. Or just talk to Cain. :p We all know he is willing to do this, and does a damn good job of it. I know he would be able to handle the task better than inexperienced fish folk.

And old??huh I'm not old. :p Well not as old as I feel some days. lol

I just believe in the sharing of information.
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Lol my bad you are not "old" as much as a senior member! that make sense?! Thats cool though how fish importers can make special orders and get you some chams.
 
Well they wouldn't have a clue how to care for fresh imports or really how to reship them. You would have to do all the leg work. They would simply be the person to go to the airport/ship yard and sign for them and collect them. It would probably be best for me to try and find you one in California. Shouldn't be much of an issue as LAX is one of the main ports for importing animals. Might be a drive for you but meeting this person at the airport would probably be the best/cheapest rout. They usually charge on a per package basis. It costs me 60 dollars to import up to 6 bettas. That price includes overnight shipping to my door from the trans shipper.

Edit: Just an example of why I would go through so much trouble

Common pet shop betta
blue-fin-betta.jpg


Example of what you can get from Thailand
betta-half-moon1.jpg


Of course there are breeders in the States offering similar fish, but to get the best blood lines you have to go to Thailand.
 
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Pure said:
Well they wouldn't have a clue how to care for fresh imports or really how to reship them. You would have to do all the leg work. They would simply be the person to go to the airport/ship yard and sign for them and collect them. It would probably be best for me to try and find you one in California. Shouldn't be much of an issue as LAX is one of the main ports for importing animals. Might be a drive for you but meeting this person at the airport would probably be the best/cheapest rout. They usually charge on a per package basis. It costs me 60 dollars to import up to 6 bettas. That price includes overnight shipping to my door from the trans shipper.

Edit: Just an example of why I would go through so much trouble

Common pet shop betta
blue-fin-betta.jpg


Example of what you can get from Thailand
betta-half-moon1.jpg


Of course there are breeders in the States offering similar fish, but to get the best blood lines you have to go to Thailand.
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Those two pictures are night and day :eek:
 
Indeed it is. The bottom pic is a Half Moon Blue Steal who is het for Melano. Melanos (black) can't reproduce with one another so they are often crossed with the blue steal. You can see the melano gene by the black dots in the fins. Cross 2 of these together and you will produce some breedable steal Melanos. They are not true Melanos but are breedable and look almost totally black. They just have a blue hint to them. The Melanos are coveted much the same way as purple bar chams are.

The half moon indicates the shape of the tail fin spread.

That bottom fish is worth about 40-45 bucks and would go for 60-80 if he didn't have any red in his lower fins.

I've spent over 150 on one betta. :eek:

Sorry Trevor, off topic I know, but hey I can't resist lol.

Anyways if you decide to go the rout I talked about PM me and I'll work on finding someone for you. But in all actuality it would prob be just easier to get the dang license. And I know you ain't scared to spend 100 bucks.
 
I dont mind at all, they are really pretty! my gf has a beta she got for like 4 dollars so i doubt its as amazing as the one you showed. I didnt realise betas were that coveted!
 
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