justjumpit621
New Member
Petsmart said veiled just want to make sure. I believe its female.
Species?
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justjumpit621
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and yes she's blind and very skinny, the work of petsmart...
THECHAMMAN
Established Member
In no way is this animal healthy or in good condition whatsoever. To be frank, this animal would be a trip to rehabilitate for a moderately experienced member, and for you, appearing to be an inexperienced keeper of chameleons will have to do a lot of research. The chameleon in question has obvious MBD (metabolic bond disease), which needs vet attention. she appears dehydrated, and underfed. she probably is loaded up with parasites. http://www.herpvetconnection.com will help you find an exotic animal vet nearby.
if you dont know alot about chameleons, and you got him/her from petco you probably followed petco's advice and are caring for him/her completely incorrectly.
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com
fill out this sheet to give us more information and to help you better
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Current Problem - The current problem that you are concerned about.
Pictures are helpful
if you dont know alot about chameleons, and you got him/her from petco you probably followed petco's advice and are caring for him/her completely incorrectly.
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com
fill out this sheet to give us more information and to help you better
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Current Problem - The current problem that you are concerned about.
Pictures are helpful
jannb
Chameleon Enthusiast
So sad for me to see this little girl in this condition. I would recommend you take her to the vet to find out exactly what all is wrong with her so you can get her the proper medications and start treating her. I do think a good chameleon vet will be able to do something for her eyes. Where do you live? Maybe someone here can guide you to a good vet.
justjumpit621
New Member
FYI, I in no way am following anything petsmart said as they know absolutely nothing about chameleons. I "adopted" her from there because they were just going to let her die. I have my own vet and know alot about veterinary care myself, and chameleons. She is receiving SubQ fluids for her dehydration and I am hand feeding her because everything petsmart did wrong caused her to loose both eyes and look like she does. Here is my sheet:
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Screen, not sure of dimensions but not very big. She is blind and I do not want her to hurt herself falling from heights. It is also easier for her to find her way around.
Lighting - Zoo med day glow blue full spectrum, Repti Glo 5.0 UVB, natural sunlight
Temperature - 73-85, at night all lights are shut off and my house stays a constant 73. I use thermometers.
Humidity - between 60% and 65%
Plants - Dracaena, geranium, allysum. They are non-toxic but she does not touch them anyway.
Placement - In kitchen, about 5 feet off floor. We rarely have anyone over and the kitchen is the quietest place. No drafts.
Location - New England, USA
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Veiled chameleon, about one year, female. I have had her for 3 days.
Handling - When she needs to eat or have her treatments.
Feeding - Whatever she will eat. Hibiscus flowers, apples, pears, I am feeding her crickets but petsmart gave her waxworms and now it's like trying to make a child eat vegetables. The crickets are dead because I cannot hand feed her live with only one person. She is stubborn enough as it is.
Supplements - I mix Reptical and Reptilife and shake up her crickets in it once a week. I do not want to over-supplement her so I figure once a week is safe enough.
Watering - I mist the cage up to 5 times a day with a warm mist from a spray bottle making sure to get every leaf, I let it dry overnight. She does not drink from the leaves or a dropper so I have resorted to subQ fluids because her dehydration is so severe, .5 cc's a day.
Fecal Description - yellowy cream color, not runny but not firm. She has not been tested as I have only had her for 3 days.
History - She has had a double eye infection that left her completely blind, mouthrot from petsmart force feeding too roughly and an already weakened immune system. Had been to "specialist vet" prior to adoption, was on ceftazidime IM injections every 3 days and baytril before that.
Current Problem - I dont have one except what other fruits and vegetables I can feed her.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Screen, not sure of dimensions but not very big. She is blind and I do not want her to hurt herself falling from heights. It is also easier for her to find her way around.
Lighting - Zoo med day glow blue full spectrum, Repti Glo 5.0 UVB, natural sunlight
Temperature - 73-85, at night all lights are shut off and my house stays a constant 73. I use thermometers.
Humidity - between 60% and 65%
Plants - Dracaena, geranium, allysum. They are non-toxic but she does not touch them anyway.
Placement - In kitchen, about 5 feet off floor. We rarely have anyone over and the kitchen is the quietest place. No drafts.
Location - New England, USA
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Veiled chameleon, about one year, female. I have had her for 3 days.
Handling - When she needs to eat or have her treatments.
Feeding - Whatever she will eat. Hibiscus flowers, apples, pears, I am feeding her crickets but petsmart gave her waxworms and now it's like trying to make a child eat vegetables. The crickets are dead because I cannot hand feed her live with only one person. She is stubborn enough as it is.
Supplements - I mix Reptical and Reptilife and shake up her crickets in it once a week. I do not want to over-supplement her so I figure once a week is safe enough.
Watering - I mist the cage up to 5 times a day with a warm mist from a spray bottle making sure to get every leaf, I let it dry overnight. She does not drink from the leaves or a dropper so I have resorted to subQ fluids because her dehydration is so severe, .5 cc's a day.
Fecal Description - yellowy cream color, not runny but not firm. She has not been tested as I have only had her for 3 days.
History - She has had a double eye infection that left her completely blind, mouthrot from petsmart force feeding too roughly and an already weakened immune system. Had been to "specialist vet" prior to adoption, was on ceftazidime IM injections every 3 days and baytril before that.
Current Problem - I dont have one except what other fruits and vegetables I can feed her.
justjumpit621
New Member
They may be able to do something about her left eye but her right eye is completely gone, only the eyelid remains.
jannb
Chameleon Enthusiast
I've never had to do any serious force feeding only once for a short time when my male stopped eating due to Albon treatments for coccidia. I have read on here how you can crush live bugs and worms and mix them in bug juice and use a syringe (no needle) to put the mixture in their mouth. One member here did that for almost a year to keep his old chameleon alive. There's a search at the top you might use to find out more info on force feeding.
I would try to get some silkworm in her and take her outside for some natural UV when the weather permits.
I would try to get some silkworm in her and take her outside for some natural UV when the weather permits.
justjumpit621
New Member
I was thinking about that today, I just need to get the right bugs and possibly mix in a few fruits and veggies too, almost like a reptilian V8 juice
and add a couple fatty waxworms in there for treats and to help with her weight.
chameleonman57
New Member
What jannb said, I would take her to a vet, one eye is better then none.
This might help...
http://adcham.com/html/husbandry/bug-juice.html
http://adcham.com/html/husbandry/bug-juice.html
chameleonman57
New Member
kinyonga that sounds good, lots of nutritions in it, glad you posted it.
