Supplement overload! Any simplified list for panther?

Franquixote

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I checked out as many threads as possible and my head is spinning with what's out there.
I was hoping someone who has more than just anecdotal info could point out the short list of supplements to be combined with proper gutloading.
As in- what to dust with, or perhaps the best gutload useable for the largest variety of bugs.

As a science guy, going through the lists from the sticky post on what different supplements contain I am pretty horrified that I couldn't find one appropriate calcium ingredient!
Calcium carbonate is garbage- it's chalk. Whether it comes from oyster shells or a secret site near area 51 in the desert, it's just not very absorbable. Are there any supplements that use calcium citrate, calcium bis-glycinate, calcium citrate malate, etc.?

I've been trying to do things the right way and get everything dialed in, and this is one of the last things I really need to know. There's a reptile show coming up this weekend and it'd be nice to have the option of getting an ambilobe there.
 
I have used Rep-cal phosphorous-free calcium powder at almost every feeding for years and it contains calcium carbonate. I dust with a phosphorous-free calcium/D3 powder twice a month lightly and dust with a vitamin powder containing a beta carotene prOformed source of vitamin A. If needed a vitamin powder with a prEformed source of vitamin A could be used once in a while. I have used this same schedule for beardies, water dragons, cone heads, etc. My veiled females, for example, usually live to be 6 to 7 years old and don't usually have reproductive issues or other health issues. I've had other species live long healthy lives too of course. For all the species of lizards and tortoises I've kept I have fed/gutloaded crickets and superworms etc with a wide assortment of greens such as dandelion greens, kale, endive, escarole, collards, etc and veggies such as carrots, zucchini, squash, sweet red pepper, sweet potato, etc and a little fruit such as berries, melon, apple, pears, etc.
I've been keeping, breeding, raising many species for over 30 years.
Hope this helps!
 
You could get some liquid calcium it's super absorbable and really easy to only dose a few times a week safely usually as long as you have a good gutload. Otherwise I use egg shells for my dog and supposedly they are really abosorbable you just have to make sure they are safe and a super fine powder for reptiles so it sticks well to insects.
 
With a good gutload the calcium powder shouldnt be a big deal. You seem intelligent and informed so I'm sure you're the type who will have a variety of gutloads. I doubt you'll have to worry as much as you're thinking, but I'd like to hear what people have to say. @Andee Do you use the liquid calc?
 
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Yes currently, but only for Ryker or for the geckos during the females laying seasons. Otherwise it's only during rescue and health situations. Ryker needs it because of how he eats etc.
 
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