To tell you the truth, I used to HATE veileds. I absolutley abhored them in a way and was, for alittle bit, a Panther elitist ( I would ignore all the post about Veileds). But after picking up a veiled from a garage sale (yes it was a garage sale) for $20 bucks, and sitting there wasting away hours and hours of time sitting there with her, I have to say that I have a new admiration for Veileds.
Im not proud of how I discovered the joy of veileds, but if you started with a panther and refuse to try a veiled, I would say that you are missing out.