to many online critics, no need for it

[marcemarc30]

I asked a question the other day about if my new baby veiled chameleon was just settling in, as he wasn't moving or eating for first 3 days, he is fine now after 6 days eating drinking and pooing as he should. I just asked a simple question that never really got answered all I got asked about was temps and humidity levels and what sort of tank he is kept in,(even after I said I done my research on keeping these reptiles) but people with new pets really need more realistic advice

see my previous posts as a example

 

[CarlC]

The beautiful thing about forums is if you don't like the advice your being given you can always leave.

Carl

I asked a question the other day about if my new baby veiled chameleon was just settling in, as he wasn't moving or eating for first 3 days, he is fine now after 6 days eating drinking and pooing as he should. I just asked a simple question that never really got answered all I got asked about was temps and humidity levels and what sort of tank he is kept in,(even after I said I done my research on keeping these reptiles) but people with new pets really need more realistic advice

see my previous posts as a example

 

[Norcal55]

I did not see your original post but most people will ask a few questions in an attempt to give you the best possible advice.

There are so many wonderful members here with an extensive amount of knowledge that are more than happy to help and share advice.

 

[Trace]

Yeah there are always members who seem to panic and assume the worst or misdiagnose things because of lack of long term experience. Unfortunately that happens on every forum about every subject, not just chameleons. Ever been on some of the chameleon social media pages? Those are horrendous!

On the other hand there are always people that say they did the research before getting a chameleon but once questioned a little they have the poor thing in a fish tank with a bowl of water and a stick and are trying to feed it oatmeal because they can’t stand touching bugs.

I’m not saying this because I’m a moderator but this site is pretty decent for advice and care, you just have to weed through some of the BS.

 

[Galaxy]

People can't know what you know. A majority of the newcomers on this forum ask questions with answers all based on upkeep, and many of these people haven't done much research beforehand or were misinformed. Asking about the temperature, humidity, and the likes help zero in on underlying problems.

When I ask a question, I make sure to present all of the information that I will assume others will find helpful, usually based on replies I've seen in other threads.
If my question isn't answered, I find a different way to ask the question with a focus on my exact concern.
Most people here are just worried about the animal receiving the best care it possibly can, and too often the askers are ignorant or stubborn people not getting the answer they WANT.

Just be patient and keep asking questions, and answer any that get asked of you. There can be a good reason behind it.

 

[laurie]

Ok I am fairly patient. I just read your other post all all the responses. I have not the foggiest clue what you are complaining about. Your question about your cham was answered twice. Both people responded he was most likely fine based on what you said. Yes you said you had done your research, but we have had people, new to chams and the forum, tell us they have done their research and what they did was talk to a person at a store. We can not know what is in your head, nor can we see your set up or cham.

If you are going to get upset because we ask questions to be able to help you, I don't see how any of us can help you. If you want help ask for it, but if you are wanting us to tell you life is wonderful and you cham is perfect, well you are mostly likely in the wrong place. You can get help here, but if all you do is attack the very people who tried to help you, I would say you are wasting your time and ours. Sorry

 

[marcemarc30]

am not saying ur all wrong we just need real advice

of course people here have vast experience of keeping chameleon, and I know lots of people don't read care sheets etc, and I know some people just g crazy and buy something they like in a pet shop with no idea how to look after it, but even so I think it would be a lot better if we just try to help each other with the basic stuff we have bought for example I have a exo terra all glass 60x60x90 for my veiled he will be fine in that tank for all his time, and if u look online they r really bad cages/tanks WTF lol they made buy people who research this stuff

 

[marcemarc30]

NO NO, am not saying this was bad advice, and also my question was never answered, I know it seems like i saying bad but I think it more like constructive criticism, there is a perfect way to keep all animals but not every way is practical, am just saying lets try to help every one

 

[deerharvester]

One thing about this hobby, the longer you're in it the more you realize how little you know. There is always more too learn, good luck with your cham this is about the best resource around imho.

Scott

 

[marcemarc30]

yeah good one thats a real help

The beautiful thing about forums is if you don't like the advice your being given you can always leave.

Carl

wow ur r a great help

 

[Craig94089]

I can relate to your frustration, I got off to a rocky start on one post but took a step back to evaluate how I interact with this forum, took a piece of humility and asked myself what it was I wanted from this experience.

As stated, this about one of the best resources out there and we all come from different backgrounds and experience levels. You may need to reframe questions and there will be times you may not get the answer you need or want as quickly as you like.

Post responses may be short, or only address part of your question; someone may only have input on pieces of a question. In some cases you'll have to take pieces and see if they can be applied, and in other cases you may have to go on your best judgement if you are not satisfied with replies, or lack there of.

Give it some time, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised once you find your nitch here. It truly is a continuous learning experience...at least for me.

 

[tripledee]

One thing about this hobby, the longer you're in it the more you realize how little you know. There is always more too learn, good luck with your cham this is about the best resource around imho.

Scott

I totally agree with this post, as with anything, one should never be done learning and there is a wealth of knowledge here. Take what you will from it and use your best judgement when implementing advise. I personally would rather consider somebody's opinion than learn by making mistakes.

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

At least 95% of health problems in chameleons and most exotic pets is caused exclusively by improper care. So asking questions about your care is absolutely necessary to try to identify the problem and any potential solutions. That's how you know you're in a good place - people aren't just throwing out crackpot suggestions or assumptions. They're making sure the problem is fixed from the source if there is one. Welcome to the forums.

 

[Bush baby]

of course people here have vast experience of keeping chameleon, and I know lots of people don't read care sheets etc, and I know some people just g crazy and buy something they like in a pet shop with no idea how to look after it, but even so I think it would be a lot better if we just try to help each other with the basic stuff we have bought for example I have a exo terra all glass 60x60x90 for my veiled he will be fine in that tank for all his time, and if u look online they r really bad cages/tanks WTF lol they made buy people who research this stuff

Like someone else mentioned, just because you said you have done research doesn't mean you have the right care; we don't know the source of your research, therefore we ask questions to double check, as your research source could be b.s, outdated, etc…..which would be no fault of your own.

 

[kinyonga]

In the other post you said your chameleon was dark, not moving much and not eating great....if we simply assumed it was normal settling in (which it could have been) and didn't ask about the temperature, etc we wouldn't have been doing a good job at first helping you because the dark colors and not eating or moving much could have also been due to the temperatures being too low or to illness, etc....so we ask questions to get a handle on what is really going on rather than just throw an answer at you that MIGHT be right. Sometimes we may seem harsh or critical but I can assure you we have the chameleon's best interests in our hearts.

 

[Chiichan]

I seriously get a kick out of some of the posts on this forum.

All the comments and feedback are entertaining, enlightening, informative, hysterical, and so on.

I wish there were "like" buttons on comments. or "helpful"

Just like yelp reviews and facebook.

Sorry, I know this really has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

 

[CarlC]

wow ur r a great help

I am to people who deserve it! Not people who want their hand held though.

Carl

 

[VThompson]

The beautiful thing about forums is if you don't like the advice your being given you can always leave.

Carl

Excuse me but your answers are come off very rude and offensive. We are a community here to support each other. This attitude is not appropriate--especially here. This should be our "safe space." Let's play nice (and mature.)

 

[waynek]

I only wish these forums were around when I first started keeping chameleons . in fact I had reptiles way before I had a computer . there were few books on reptile husbandry and those that existed could best be called approximate guidelines for keeping reptiles . remember when ball pythons lived a short time in captivity ? now with these forums I can search a couple of keywords and usually find the answer I'm looking for without having to ask .

 

[fluxlizard]

At least 95% of health problems in chameleons and most exotic pets is caused exclusively by improper care. So asking questions about your care is absolutely necessary to try to identify the problem and any potential solutions.

This is very true.
It isn't personal, the care questions are about troubleshooting to find the source of the problem so you can resolve it.