I've used kale and collards and other goitrogenic veggies...all in moderation just as I use other greens, veggies and fruits in moderation for years mostly in food/gutload for the insects and non of the autopsies have ever mentioned any thyroid problems I the chameleons. I have however rarely used spinach (no real reason).
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Lenna
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Thanks for your experiences with it. I appreciate everyones point of view and if you ever come across any info id be glad if youd share
Lenna
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Hows tge spot today?I'm happy to say today while feeding, the red spot that was there on Saturday was almost completely gone
serenaj25
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Kale produces compounds whose metabolites compete with iodine for uptake in the thyroid...but you have to eat a lot of it to be a problem. IMHO the good things (vitamin C and K, carotenoids, calcium, iron, etc.) in kale outweigh this since most of the vitamin powders we use have some iodine in them....just my opinion.
Besides tasting yucky, Kale like spinach can block calcium absorption. Sorry don't have an article handy will come back to this later.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/oxalic-acid-content-of-vegetables.215/ I still say it tastes yucky but It's oxalic acid content doesn't outweigh it's calcium content like spinach does. It is listed in the above blog for use in moderation. Collard greens are also for use in moderation. The calcium bioavailability of kale is confirmed by the National Osteoporosis Society.
