MantisFTW
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If anyone hasn't seen my previous thread on Specs with the health form:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/specs-seems-going-downhill-please-help-80665/
Well, Ive been observing Specs more closely over the past few days. Ive noticed that it really is mostly his back legs that he doesn't use as much. Ive watched closely and tested, and his front hands seem to have a decent grip, while his back just kinda barely try sometimes.
I noticed that he tends to just hang onto branches with his front legs for a while, with one or both back legs just dangling. Also, he really doesn't move around in his cage very much. He sorta either just awkwardly hangs for long periods of time or rests on a branch for a while. It could be normal though, because since he is my first cham, I dont know how often a cham should normally move around in its cage. When he does move, it kind of looks like his belly is dragging, which is why I thought that maybe he was just overweight.
When I put the feeding cup in his cage, he doesn't look very enthusiastic about it. He wont head toward the cup until a while later (and he'll be fairly slow and clumsy getting there) so I usually just put it right up to him so he can eat. The same goes for the dripping water. He wont normally go to the spot where its dripping at, so I'll usually pick him up and place him there.
He is still falling a bit, and I notice that at night, he falls in his sleep a lot. Also, he used to move to a spot or get more comfortable and curl his tail up all the way when he slept. He no longer does that. Now when he sleeps, he just kinda... awkwardly hangs there, or doesn't move and falls asleep right where hes at.
As a matter of fact, I think he is using his tail less and less too along with his back legs. I did notice though that sometimes he'll have good days, and sometimes he'll have bad days. Like right now, hes basking under his light and he seems okay.. but earlier this morning he fell.
I tried having him outside in the sun for about two days. It seemed to work alright, but the several times I went out to check on him, feed him, etc, I'd often find him on the bottom of his cage as if he had just fallen. :/ Also, I notice that, usually when he falls, he'll sometimes make little effort to get back up. He'll just stay in the fallen position for a while even if he falls in shallow water. Im really starting to get worried...
I have two videos of him being clumsy, half falling, not using his back legs, and awkwardly hanging there if it can help anyone tell me for sure if this is MBD.. I tried to help him up at the end of the second vid :
[vimeo]40469078[/vimeo]
But I cant get to a vet right now with no car... are there any home remedies or anything I could do at all for this?
Other things that Ive noticed about him, although I dont know if this would portray to the major problem: the back half of his body seems a little... discolored. After his last shed, the white vertical stripe seems to go from bright white from the front of his body to a brownish on the second half. Other than the stripe though, it seems alright. I should probably wait until his next shed to be concerned though.
Another thing, yesterday I noticed an air pocket or something on either sides of his head... it almost looked as if he got that from being fired up and having his little throat pouch get puffed up, but I dont know. I didnt see it today so I suppose its nothing to worry about. And lastly.. he tends to bulge his eyes at random. It just lasts half a second and goes back to normal. Hes done this since he was a lot younger though, so I thought maybe it just meant he was "cleaning" his eyes or something. Just wanted to be sure.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/specs-seems-going-downhill-please-help-80665/
Well, Ive been observing Specs more closely over the past few days. Ive noticed that it really is mostly his back legs that he doesn't use as much. Ive watched closely and tested, and his front hands seem to have a decent grip, while his back just kinda barely try sometimes.
I noticed that he tends to just hang onto branches with his front legs for a while, with one or both back legs just dangling. Also, he really doesn't move around in his cage very much. He sorta either just awkwardly hangs for long periods of time or rests on a branch for a while. It could be normal though, because since he is my first cham, I dont know how often a cham should normally move around in its cage. When he does move, it kind of looks like his belly is dragging, which is why I thought that maybe he was just overweight.
When I put the feeding cup in his cage, he doesn't look very enthusiastic about it. He wont head toward the cup until a while later (and he'll be fairly slow and clumsy getting there) so I usually just put it right up to him so he can eat. The same goes for the dripping water. He wont normally go to the spot where its dripping at, so I'll usually pick him up and place him there.
He is still falling a bit, and I notice that at night, he falls in his sleep a lot. Also, he used to move to a spot or get more comfortable and curl his tail up all the way when he slept. He no longer does that. Now when he sleeps, he just kinda... awkwardly hangs there, or doesn't move and falls asleep right where hes at.
As a matter of fact, I think he is using his tail less and less too along with his back legs. I did notice though that sometimes he'll have good days, and sometimes he'll have bad days. Like right now, hes basking under his light and he seems okay.. but earlier this morning he fell.I tried having him outside in the sun for about two days. It seemed to work alright, but the several times I went out to check on him, feed him, etc, I'd often find him on the bottom of his cage as if he had just fallen. :/ Also, I notice that, usually when he falls, he'll sometimes make little effort to get back up. He'll just stay in the fallen position for a while even if he falls in shallow water. Im really starting to get worried...
I have two videos of him being clumsy, half falling, not using his back legs, and awkwardly hanging there if it can help anyone tell me for sure if this is MBD.. I tried to help him up at the end of the second vid
:[vimeo]40469078[/vimeo]
But I cant get to a vet right now with no car... are there any home remedies or anything I could do at all for this?
Other things that Ive noticed about him, although I dont know if this would portray to the major problem: the back half of his body seems a little... discolored. After his last shed, the white vertical stripe seems to go from bright white from the front of his body to a brownish on the second half. Other than the stripe though, it seems alright. I should probably wait until his next shed to be concerned though.
Another thing, yesterday I noticed an air pocket or something on either sides of his head... it almost looked as if he got that from being fired up and having his little throat pouch get puffed up, but I dont know. I didnt see it today so I suppose its nothing to worry about. And lastly.. he tends to bulge his eyes at random. It just lasts half a second and goes back to normal. Hes done this since he was a lot younger though, so I thought maybe it just meant he was "cleaning" his eyes or something. Just wanted to be sure.
