Veiled Cham having surgery this Wednesday...

biochemnerd808

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Hi all,
I just joined this forum, but have read quite a few posts on here in the past weeks.

We are currently fostering Leonard, a fully-grown male veiled chameleon (age unknown) that has some pretty major health problems. Slowly but surely we are addressing each one, and he is already doing SO much better but:

-Leonard doesn't hunt or shoot out his tongue. We hand-feed him crickets, wax worms, meal worms and silk worms each day. We gut-load the feeders, and dust w/ calcium
-when Leonard first came to us, he just weakly sat at the bottom of his cage. We were told that he didn't feed himself, and right away started feeding him by hand. His behavior (lack of energy, lethargy, and not shooting his tongue) are consistent with mineral/calcium deficiency, so we have been giving him extra calcium suspended in papaya juice via an eyedropper. After nearly 6 weeks in our care, Leonard climbs around his cage and basks on the top branch. He shows no interest in hunting food.

-Leonard has an abscess on his nose ridge that also inhibits partial eye movement on one side. This abscess is being removed by the vet on Wednesday. I have been giving Leonard antibiotic injections every 72 hrs for the past week, as instructed by the vet.

-Leonard had no heat lamps or UV when we got him. We bought a heat/UVB basking lamp, as well as a separate UVB bulb.

-we mist 2x daily with warm water

-feces and urates look normal

-cage is wire mesh, with branches and braided vines

Interestingly, Leonard's bones seem to be straight and strong, so at some point he must have been well-fed and healthy. His last owner before he came to the reptile rescue (for whom we are fostering) was a 2nd grade girl who had NO idea what she was doing. I suspect Leonard had another owner before this, he was with the girl for a year.

Anyway, please wish Leonard luck, he'll be anesthetized to have the abscess removed... I hope that once he is healed, with continued calcium and proper lighting that he might once again hunt... (although it is kinda fun to pop those bugs into his mouth! he is so tame!)

I couldn't figure out how to attach images, so here is a link to a blog post that has some pics of Leonard. If you scroll to the bottom you can see a good pic of the abscess on his nose ridge...
http://www.bradleybabyboy.blogspot.com/2012/09/new-foster-pet.html

Cheers,
Katie

Proud owner of 2 healthy Russian torts, foster Momma to 1 male veiled cham
 
Leonard sounds like a trooper - he has my best wishes and prayers for successful surgery and a quick recovery. Bless YOUR heart for taking him in and helping him...you're a star in my books! Good luck Leonard!! (And keep us posted please!)
 
For all he is been through he looks good! I hope his surgery will turn out well. Let us know how it goes. I am glad he has found a happy home with you!
 
Congrats on taking Leonard in, he looks to be fully enjoying his new home! ( he said he'd like to stay with you);)
Wishing him a successful surgery this Wednesday! Please keep us posted!!!
 
He looks pretty good for what all he has been through!
Thank you for taking him in :) I'm sure he appreciates it :)

I wish him luck on his surgery and hope he continues to improve:)
 
He looks pretty good for what all he has been through!
Thank you for taking him in :) I'm sure he appreciates it :)

I wish him luck on his surgery and hope he continues to improve:)

I completely agree with squeekz1992 . Leonard is quite lucky to have such a caring foster family.
I'll be looking forward to updates.
 
Surgery UPDATE Veiled Chameleon nose ridge abscess

Leonard had his surgery today to remove the abscess on the ridge of his nose. Everything went really well, Leonard is happily resting on his favorite branch.

The vet said that it was good that we got it now, there was granulated puss all the way down a little canal towards the eye (or it might have started by the eye and moved up).

Anyway, the vet chose to use local anesthesia rather than letting him sleep through the procedure, since she said that would be easier on his heart. Then she opened up the abscessed "bump" on top of his nose ridge with a scalpel and cleaned out the granules all the way down through the little tunnel and the second portion of the abscess right by the eye. Finally they flushed the wound, and sutured it with a dissolvable thread. She said the swelling around the eye will go down in a couple of days (he's just a little puffy).

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:) So glad to hear the surgery went well. Thanks for the picks. Very interesting. Looks like he handled it well. Hope is all uphill from here. Please keep on posting. We love these happy stories of Happily ever after. :D We love pictures too.
 
Congraz on a successful surgery! My girl had a major surgery 2 weeks ago, so I can sympathize. Hope he is doing well! He is a beautiful boy
It's really heartwarming to know you are looking so well after him! Keep up the good work!
 
Awsome to hear he did so well. Where you in the room for the surgery? is that you holding the cham?
Just curious
 
@Hoj, no, I wasn't in the room, but one of the technicians took 20+ pics for me, and the vet gave me a very detailed description of what was done. So a vet technician is the one holding Leonard during the surgery. :)
 
Is your chameleon on antibiotics fora few days now? Did they do a culture and sensitivity test to determine what bacteria were involved?
 
@kinyonga -Good question, and YES! :) I've been giving Leonard antibiotic injections (the vet showed me exactly how) for a week before the surgery (every 72 hours) and will continue until a week after. A culture is being done, just to be sure that the bacteria are actually sensitive to the antibiotics.
 
UPDATE: still some swelling in Leonard's eye

It has been several weeks now since Leonard's surgery to remove the abscessed bump on his nose ridge. He is done receiving antibiotics. The sutures on his nose ridge look great - I bet they will fall off with the next shed.

However, there appears to be some swelling around the eye and tear duct. I attached a pic. I give Leonard a good warm misting 2x per day, and even with deep misting, specifically in his face, this hasn't gotten better, so I contacted our vet.

The vet said that there may be some debris stuck there from the healing and surgery, so she is going to flush out his eye on Monday.
 

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Hello, welcome to the forum :) I missed this thread first time around but congrats on your new Leonard (I'm guessing here from limited evidence but the signs point to a Big Bang Theory fan). Good job on rescueing him for sure............Sorry to hear about the trouble he's given you already, hope it gets better properly soon. Here's a great all-round caresheet that I'm just constantly recommending to people :D - https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/chameleonsinmyhouse/395-veiled-chameleon-care-sheet.html
 
Thanks @DavidBuchan, for your message, and for the caresheet link - I had actually already discovered that one while I was refreshing my memory on how to properly care for a Veiled chameleon... years ago we had a female.
We knew before we started fostering Leonard that he has a lot of special needs from previous owner's neglect/wrong husbandry... so having to hand-feed him wasn't a surprise.
When we first got him, he was so weak he just kind of sat on the ground of his cage. Now he climbs around and explores (although he still doesn't stalk food). I re-arranged the inside so that when he does fall off of a vine (braided grapevine) or a branch, he never falls more than 12 inches.
I am hoping some day Leonard will hunt on his own - but until then, I don't mind popping food into his mouth each day. :)
 
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