xxleucisticxx
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So to start off this is the history of the parents.
Female was older when purchased and had previous laid 72+ eggs for the original owner. I gave her almost about a year before introducing her to my male (young inexperienced). She produced for me 27 eggs and all of which took literally 13 months to hatch (Temps were roughly from 74-76 hot to 72-70 at night time).
In any case, the oldest hatchlings will be three weeks by next Sunday and they're very healthy and even capable of eating small crickets. I still have two eggs left that need to hatch and they're doing just fine.
My real problem is that I now have 5 babies with their eyes closed. (One opens them routinely and does eat) most of the others won't. They have been separated and placed in their own 32oz deli cups. They've been labeled by numbers. 1-3 has been in their cups for 5 days now. 4-5 just put in yesterday as I noticed them walking around with their siblings blindly.
#1 opens his eyes every time I offer water. I feed immediately and he's usually happy to go hunting but within a few minutes he's back to closing his eyes. He'll open them routinely but majority of the time they're closed.
#2 as of yesterday has not opened his eyes. He was eating and drinking fine before that but now he won't open them even after offering water.
#3 is the weakest. She opened her eyes perhaps 2-3 days ago. She's very skinny and lethargic. My sis force fed her two flies. (I wanted to try the Oxbow carnivore diet as my rescues have always survived on it even at their worse.) But we went with this route for now because she's so terribly weak. (I doubt she'll make it)
#4 and #5 were fine up until yesterday when I noticed them wandering in the enclosure with their siblings with their eyes closed. They have not once since opened them.
Monitoring them and keeping a log on them, I have noticed that #1 vibrates quite a bit if a fly walks on his head and seems very stressed out in the company/eye shot of the others. This might be why he's still willing to eat and drink. The second he looks at you though and realizes you're watching, he closes his eye. Not too concerned with him honestly. He just appears to be a very easily stressed/shy baby.
As for the others, they also vibrate when a fly walks on them but they refuse to do anything else. They deflate, shrink down to the plants they are holding and just stay there. I can't tell if this is severe stress in them, Vit A deficient, the start of MBD (no one has funny limbs, their tongues can fire). I don't get it.
Are they just weak babies? They're still getting their proper UVB and heat (Cham room in itself is roughly 80-85 degrees F.). Humidity in the room alone is anywhere from 50-70% when the misters go off on all my adults. Ca + D3 every 5 times a week, Vit supplements every 2-3x a week. I've always done this for babies (not hatchling veileds though) and it's never been terrible like this. So what's the deal?
Any hints, tips, tricks? Cuz right now, I don't have a clue and I'm about to start considering force feeding #4 and #5 if they spiral down like #3.
Female was older when purchased and had previous laid 72+ eggs for the original owner. I gave her almost about a year before introducing her to my male (young inexperienced). She produced for me 27 eggs and all of which took literally 13 months to hatch (Temps were roughly from 74-76 hot to 72-70 at night time).
In any case, the oldest hatchlings will be three weeks by next Sunday and they're very healthy and even capable of eating small crickets. I still have two eggs left that need to hatch and they're doing just fine.
My real problem is that I now have 5 babies with their eyes closed. (One opens them routinely and does eat) most of the others won't. They have been separated and placed in their own 32oz deli cups. They've been labeled by numbers. 1-3 has been in their cups for 5 days now. 4-5 just put in yesterday as I noticed them walking around with their siblings blindly.
#1 opens his eyes every time I offer water. I feed immediately and he's usually happy to go hunting but within a few minutes he's back to closing his eyes. He'll open them routinely but majority of the time they're closed.
#2 as of yesterday has not opened his eyes. He was eating and drinking fine before that but now he won't open them even after offering water.
#3 is the weakest. She opened her eyes perhaps 2-3 days ago. She's very skinny and lethargic. My sis force fed her two flies. (I wanted to try the Oxbow carnivore diet as my rescues have always survived on it even at their worse.) But we went with this route for now because she's so terribly weak. (I doubt she'll make it)
#4 and #5 were fine up until yesterday when I noticed them wandering in the enclosure with their siblings with their eyes closed. They have not once since opened them.
Monitoring them and keeping a log on them, I have noticed that #1 vibrates quite a bit if a fly walks on his head and seems very stressed out in the company/eye shot of the others. This might be why he's still willing to eat and drink. The second he looks at you though and realizes you're watching, he closes his eye. Not too concerned with him honestly. He just appears to be a very easily stressed/shy baby.
As for the others, they also vibrate when a fly walks on them but they refuse to do anything else. They deflate, shrink down to the plants they are holding and just stay there. I can't tell if this is severe stress in them, Vit A deficient, the start of MBD (no one has funny limbs, their tongues can fire). I don't get it.
Are they just weak babies? They're still getting their proper UVB and heat (Cham room in itself is roughly 80-85 degrees F.). Humidity in the room alone is anywhere from 50-70% when the misters go off on all my adults. Ca + D3 every 5 times a week, Vit supplements every 2-3x a week. I've always done this for babies (not hatchling veileds though) and it's never been terrible like this. So what's the deal?
Any hints, tips, tricks? Cuz right now, I don't have a clue and I'm about to start considering force feeding #4 and #5 if they spiral down like #3.
