OK, so I must confess, I stopped reading after @absolutbill told me I'm not getting paid.
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The caresheets are on Chameleon Enthusiasts facebook group in the files. I dont know how to link them. My post was a cry for help for those that dont have all the time in the world to visit forums, watch pod casts, join groups, read extensive and sometimes old literature in order to get the most essential husbandry needs correct. Seems everyone here is satisfied with the quality of the care sheets available.I do think the carehsheets here that I have seen were better than the ones I got at the Store (and surprisingly) the Vet. However I do think there is a TON of opaque information that seems to require a ton of research (to your point). In particular around UVB exposure values targets.
I am a relatively new keeper, so I honestly am very interested in the caresheets you have mentioned and was just hoping for a link to improve my own knowledge. I did some googling and I am already a member of Bill Strand's Chameleon Breeder facebook group and I haven't seen the docs you mentioned yet, though I did reach his "First Chameleon E Book" of his. I am curious about the mention of the bee pollen and more detail about the night-time misting. Was that info perhaps from his Episode on Naturalistic Chameleon Hydration?
I don't disagree about the required heavy lifting to find the best information, but I was also hoping you could help provide some of the tools to improve, if you think they're out there?
Thanks!
Thanks I'll check that FB group out!
Seems everyone here is satisfied with the quality of the care sheets available.
The caresheets are on Chameleon Enthusiasts facebook group in the files. I dont know how to link them. My post was a cry for help for those that dont have all the time in the world to visit forums, watch pod casts, join groups, read extensive and sometimes old literature in order to get the most essential husbandry needs correct. Seems everyone here is satisfied with the quality of the care sheets available.
Why don’t we start a wiki that members can edit? It would allow thorough care sheets for every species but so much more. It would be searchable. It would allow citing sources. The information would be easily linkable here on the forums, and we could direct new members to it easily. This is a real step we could take right now. I would contribute and I know many other members who would as well. The helpful pages already here could be consolidated as a starting point.
There are many free wiki options but given how well this site is maintained I doubt it would be a difficult task for the webmaster to install a web app in this CMS.
What do you guys think?
OK, so I must confess, I stopped reading after @absolutbill told me I'm not getting paid.
All the care sheets in the world won’t stop these issues. Thousands of chameleon “impulse buys” happen every week, and out of those thousands, a couple individuals care enough to fix their husbandry when their chameleon starts to fail.
Very proud of you!!!This resonates with me quite a bit ... So glad I didn't purchase a chameleon when I decided I'd like one and have waited to make sure I can provide the level of care that they require.
like you said there is information it's important people can access it so they can act accordingly but when action is needed how many people can / will make the adjustments needed in their husbandry or enclosure to keep their chameleon thriving and not simply alive.
One big thing I've learned from the chameleon breeders podcasts is learning what stress and warning signs may be and the importance of getting ahead of an issue before it's too late.
For me It's been a few months of "homework" and research as well as talking to established keepers / breeders who are willing to share their experience with a novice keeper to help them avoid such posts as "Sick Cham please help" and after listening to all of the chameleon breeder podcasts as well as working on building a custom size enclosure 30*20*55 (as a home and having a zoomed xl that will function as a "vacation home" for time outside and natural light and to use while I clean the other ) getting the linear t5 uvb vs the compact and a mist king system vs trying to hand mist. I hope this has prepared me to bring home a chameleon (hoping to pick a baby male ambilobe from a local breeder this weekend)
my Dino is about a year and a half old. Sometimes I just don't know what to do. I have been misting by hand for all this time, and it is working for me. But when new ideas come out, such as a fogger during the night, I am nervous to change things up. I don't want to say if it's not broke, don't fix it, but that is what it feels like.This resonates with me quite a bit ... So glad I didn't purchase a chameleon when I decided I'd like one and have waited to make sure I can provide the level of care that they require.
like you said there is information it's important people can access it so they can act accordingly but when action is needed how many people can / will make the adjustments needed in their husbandry or enclosure to keep their chameleon thriving and not simply alive.
One big thing I've learned from the chameleon breeders podcasts is learning what stress and warning signs may be and the importance of getting ahead of an issue before it's too late.
For me It's been a few months of "homework" and research as well as talking to established keepers / breeders who are willing to share their experience with a novice keeper to help them avoid such posts as "Sick Cham please help" and after listening to all of the chameleon breeder podcasts as well as working on building a custom size enclosure 30*20*55 (as a home and having a zoomed xl that will function as a "vacation home" for time outside and natural light and to use while I clean the other ) getting the linear t5 uvb vs the compact and a mist king system vs trying to hand mist. I hope this has prepared me to bring home a chameleon (hoping to pick a baby male ambilobe from a local breeder this weekend)
Yup say no more...different strokes for different folks...lets keep on learning and share the positive thoughts.takes work to make it work for your situation