trickedoutbiker
Avid Member
So stating my own personal opinion about Climist and Coastal Silkworms having two different sites seeming odd to me suddenly makes me ignorant? Lmfao. If someone's opinion makes them ignorant all of a sudden, then you have a LOT to learn about how the world really works yo. I wasn't stating any facts, just my opinion. Nor was I trying to sway you one way or the other with what to buy. You want my honest opinion? Not to be mean, but I personally couldn't care less what system you get. It's your choice, not mine. Nobody can tell you what to buy for your cage. What I CAN vouch for though, is how well the MistKing system DOES work, for me, and thousands of other people that have had them and still do. We speak highly of MistKing because we have good experiences with it. Does that mean I'm against the Climist system? Nope. Never even used it, I just chose not to get it myself for reasons I will go over below. Could it be a good system like some people are saying though? Sure. Could it be better than the MistKing? Who knows.. Has it been around long enough to earn a huge positive reputation like the MistKing though? Hardly. MistKing was in the business first, WAAAAYYYY before Climist was even a name in a thought process, and therefore, MistKing has more experience in what is going on and how it all works. People KNOW the MistKing is good because THOUSANDS of people have used them and can tell you how good they are.
I didn't buy a MistKing because I was "buying what other people told me to buy" .....because I actually bought a newer model Monsoon RS400 at first which is what people told me NOT to buy. But I was being like you, wanting to save money. This is a hobby though, and not exactly cheap. You can't be a tightwad. So I thought about it and thought about it some more, and decided to sell off the Monsoon (for more than I paid for it actually
) and get a MistKing instead. Am I happy I did? You bet your bottom dollar I am. There's so much more customization you can do with the MistKing over the Monsoon and you can choose what size your reservoir is going to be instead of using the fixed-size reservoir that comes with the Monsoon. You can also use a MistKing on more cages per system than you can a Monsoon. The Monsoon RS400 has lots of bad reviews on the older models too. I actually got one of the "new and improved" models that was supposed to fix the issues that the old models had, but there weren't enough reviews on the newer model for me to make a good judgment call on if the issues were really fixed or not. So I sold it off and got the MistKing instead because frankly, it's what I wanted from the get-go but like I said, I was trying to save a few measly dollars. Did I compare the Climist to the MistKing before I bought the MistKing though? Yep. I did lots of research on them both and made my final decision based on what I came to learn in my research. I learned that the MistKing was recommended by many and is tried and true and it certainly stands the test of time for many many people. The Climist hasn't even been around long enough to know if systems will fail in 5 or 10 years from now. Jus sayin.Know what else I came to the conclusion of after reading lots of information, speaking with lots of people (including the owner of MistKing and also the owner of Coastal Silkworms/Climist), and examining both systems?
Climist copied the idea of MistKing. No doubts there. Why? Because MistKing has a pretty much perfected product. Who WOULDN'T want to copy them? I mean, look at the two products and compare them side-by-side. It speaks volumes. Climist looks 99.9% identical to MistKing in every way. Their fittings are identical to MistKing fittings. Their tube cutter is identical to the MistKing tube cutter. Their timer is identical to the MistKing old-style timer (now is it a matter of time before they copy the new timers too? - that will only further support the fact they copied it). The screen wedges are identical to the Mistking screen wedges. The nozzles look identical to the MistKing value nozzles. You'd think that if Climist was truly its own unique design, that at least SOMETHING would look different to make it stand out from everyone else. And nothing really does. Sure, the Climist ball valve is ALL black where the MistKing ball valve is part blue and part black. Same part, different color. Sure, the MistKing pumps have different mounting plates on them, but have you examined the actual pumps from both Climist and MistKing? They are identical. The actual pump housings are identical (as far as the internals, you'd never know unless you took it apart). So how is it that Climist has their own unique product, yet, it matches the MistKing in all ways as far as looks go? That doesn't seem odd to you AT ALL?
I had a conversation from Marty once about Climist. I left the conversation when it was over because I don't like my inbox to get all cluttered, but if there is any way for me to bring back a conversation that I left and view it again, someone tell me, because I just tried and don't think it is possible. Or, I will give moderators permission to pull it back up for me somehow. Reason being, is because there was something said in that email that I would literally screenshot and post it here to prove my point. Did you know that when the Climist system first came out, they actually USED THE PICTURE OF A MISTKING SYSTEM as their own picture on their own website at first? Ask Marty about it. He'll tell you straight up. Climist actually had a picture of Marty's MistKing system posted up on their site as the picture of the "Climist System" and Marty almost took legal action against them until they took the pic down and replaced it with a pic of their own actual system. It even said the words "MistKing" on the system in the picture they were using! So why was the "Climist" system using a picture of "their" system which said "MistKing" on it? ---- Now tell me "rminnis" - does that still not sound fishy to you? They USED Marty's picture and they literally copied every aspect of the design of his system. They just renamed it and pretended it was something new. They made nothing unique about Climist to make it look any different in any way. Why would a company make it look exactly like another product instead of making it look like their own, new, fresh product? You know what the owner of Coastal Silkworms and Climist told me when I questioned him about copying the MistKing? He told me that some of those parts from misting systems are mass produced for many different people and sold to different people who use them to make different things. That's quite odd because as true as that may be, Climist ended up with parts that ALL look 99.9% IDENTICAL to the MistKing parts. Out of all of the pieces in the world that you could use to build your own version of a misting system and make it unique to your own company, they used parts that look EXACTLY like the MistKing parts. Kinda fishy don't you think? It sounds like they couldn't come up with an original idea so they copied someone. After all, they WERE using Marty's picture on their own website. What kind of legit company would do that? If you think I'm making any of this up, feel free to ask Marty about it. Or, as I said before, I fully give moderators Brad or Decadancin permission to dig through my private conversations and dig up the very first messages I had with Marty back in March or April or around there. By all means, go for it and post it here for us all to see.
What I would be asking yourself is.... How is it that Climist is using seemingly identical parts as far as looks, yet, can sell the system cheaper than Marty at MistKing when Marty has been around longer and surely has a bigger business, therefore, if ANYONE could afford to sell it cheaper, it would be him (considering many many places carry the MistKing products as opposed to only a select few that carry the Climist product). It's like buying a pair of Dr. Dre Beats Headphones. They will cost you over $100. Name brand, legit Dr. Dre Beats. Now, go to China and you can find knock-off brands of Dre's Beats. They will LOOK 100% identical, but they are made cheaper with cheaper inside components. AND, they will be about 1/4th the price. To a person who has no clue of the difference, you could buy that knock-off in China thinking you had legit Dr. Dre Beats when in reality, yours is only half the quality of the original. This right here... that thought right there... is what made me spend $20 more to get a MistKing - because Marty came up with the idea first and his products are KNOWN to be quality. So why buy from someone else who is literally trying to ripoff Marty and steal his idea with probably a slightly cheaper product lookalike? I wanted to support the ones who came up with the idea, not the ones who stole the idea.
I too, have no allegiance to any company. I'm not "friends" with any of them and have never met any of them. I'm not being paid by anyone to state my opinions. I'm simply stating my views. Apparently that makes some of us ignorant?
