Who's chams accept dubias and who's dont???

[tadeusz]

Hey tad.. how big are those guys now???*

Pretty BIG!! Here is a recent pic of one of my more colorful guys... He has some interesting shades of green/turquoise on his legs and face sometimes when he is really calm, otherwise, he will be the normal brown/red whites... This one guy seems be the most colorful while the other 2 males are typical brown/red/whites.

 

[mikeduner]

you dont think you should feed them dog or cat food? see my thought was that i would be having a colony and a, so to speak, on deck circle. I would keep the on deck circle on something a little more substantial and get them gut loaded with tasty bits. I would also dump veggies and stuff in the colony, but dog food would be the main feed, is that too wrong in some way?

 

[mikeduner]

Bump, seriously is this ok?

 

[tadeusz]

you dont think you should feed them dog or cat food? see my thought was that i would be having a colony and a, so to speak, on deck circle. I would keep the on deck circle on something a little more substantial and get them gut loaded with tasty bits. I would also dump veggies and stuff in the colony, but dog food would be the main feed, is that too wrong in some way?

I feed my entire colony a mixture I make plus fruits/veggies. The mix includes organic baby food (with bananas), flax seed (ground up), organic oatmeal, unsalted organic sunflower seeds (ground up), unsalted almonds (ground up), and in the mix I do throw in 1 dog treat that is basically pure protein (about 1" in size). I blend that all together and I get enough food for my 1000+ dubia colony for about 2 months. I also use oranges and sometimes mix it up with pears and apples and a piece of romaine lettuce here and there, My colony is doing awesome on this diet and its fairly cheap (about $9 for 2 months worth). To answer your specific question... I would not use PURE dog food as a staple for my dubias, even if it was just for breeders.

 

[mikeduner]

ok sounds easy enough, but isnt the babyfood we ingredient, it seemed like you were making a dry blend food until that step

 

[tadeusz]

ok sounds easy enough, but isnt the babyfood we ingredient, it seemed like you were making a dry blend food until that step

the organic baby food I use is dry food, not wet. That is the single post expensive ingredient. I usually pay $3.50 for a box of it

 

[eriksorg]

Pretty BIG!! Here is a recent pic of one of my more colorful guys... He has some interesting shades of green/turquoise on his legs and face sometimes when he is really calm, otherwise, he will be the normal brown/red whites... This one guy seems be the most colorful while the other 2 males are typical brown/red/whites.

Nice to see the little ones growing up and being very well taken care of!!!

 

[tadeusz]

Thanks, I think they may be a little too well fed as they all look at little chubby! lol

 

[eriksorg]

Oustalets do like to eat!!!! The father though has backed off on the chow in his old age...he eats only 3 or 4 times a week...unless I find home some grasshoppers...he will not stop eatting those until he explodes!!!!

 

[mikeduner]

yeah those are some good lookin chams, i wish my Flic was a little more active a hunter. Basically unless the cricket walks past him on the screen, he wont bother. Theres probably half a dozen live crickets meandering around the cage at any time just munchin on some carrot and hangin out

 

[eriksorg]

For what its worth...its not a great idea to leave a bunch of crickets running around the cage...they do bite...and a lot of them will tend to "freak-out" most chameleons...

 

[mikeduner]

I get that, he has only eaten like 4 today, i just did a recount and theres three left in there, theres carrot in there for them to munch, and its working, thats what they're eating. I dont mean to not listen to your advice, i know thats frustrating, giving advise and it being ignored, If any are left when Flic goes to bed then I'll take em back out. I really like your turtle by the way, he looks big!

 

[eriksorg]

Thats one of my Radiated tortoises...he's now 20 years old!!!
He also weights about 20lbs

 

[mikeduner]

haha 20 at 20, is he gonna start drinking next year?

 

[eriksorg]

Funny!!!!!

 

[fluxlizard]

all my chams eat any insect I offer, and dubia is one of them.
I simply don't allow picky eaters- I've raised thousands of lizards- if your lizard won't eat dubia you need to carefully examine how you have been trained by your lizard instead of the other way around...

 

[JohnnyD]

Good answer Flux. Very true.

 

[tadeusz]

So funny thing today... My one little oustalet who wouldn't touch roaches refused to eat anything else BUT dubia roaches today!! So, he is coming around, only took about 6 months and he munched down about 10 small ones today!!

 

[Johnny84]

Thats so true!! I bought 6 Dubia's over a week ago and my male Panther Cham just barely ate one this morning!! Just have to keep introducing the insect to them everyday until they do eat it or they wont ever eat it!

 

[lslcronk]

all my chams eat any insect I offer, and dubia is one of them.
I simply don't allow picky eaters- I've raised thousands of lizards- if your lizard won't eat dubia you need to carefully examine how you have been trained by your lizard instead of the other way around...

I am trying to get ideas here...I fed Claude his 1st dubia yesterday and he ate it just fine. SO I thought "WooHoo bye bye crickets!"...I fed him 1 this morning, which he again ate so I gave him a second one - he quite literally, took it, chewed it a bit and then right before my very eyes...SPIT IT OUT like a 7 year old eating broccoli!! Then sat there looking at me licking his lips making the "WTF" face! I did not give up...I gave him another - I dont know if he ate that one cuz he took it, shook his head then mashed it in his mouth a bit then just held it there with its guts drooling down his chin and I had to leave for work (it was at least 7min lol)...I will have to see if there is a carcass on the floor when I get home. Is it the taste? Could it be the supplement? I just got some the of the new Repashy all in one supplement that the Kammer's are now endorsing/recommending, so I thought maybe he didn't like that??