Yemen + snake?
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dodolah
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dodolah
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It would be equivalent to the experience of someone introducing a rabid dog inside your room.
It will strike fear to your chameleon.
Snake is one of their natural predator in the wild.
So why expose him to such experience?
Just safely tucked the corn snake out of your chameleon's view.
Your chameleon don't have the desire to be formally introduced to his new predator type roommate.
It will strike fear to your chameleon.
Snake is one of their natural predator in the wild.
So why expose him to such experience?
Just safely tucked the corn snake out of your chameleon's view.
Your chameleon don't have the desire to be formally introduced to his new predator type roommate.
eisentrauti
Avid Member
Why don't you put some rabbits and birds or cats to your chameleon ? It would be definitely very funny /sarcasm off 
jojackson
New Member
Mine isnt bothered by other lizard species and snakes in the same room. It isnt bothered by the snakes because the cham is diurnal, the snakes nocturnal, never the twixt shall meet.
If your corn is active in the day, observe, if the cham seems stressed, move it!
Why do you need others to tell you this? its common sense!
If your corn is active in the day, observe, if the cham seems stressed, move it!
Why do you need others to tell you this? its common sense!
Common sense seems to vary. There's dodolah comparing it to introducing a rabid dog, the person afterwards just taking the piss and there's you who takes the approach I talked about in post 4.
I'm still new to reptiles, I've never kept a snake before and the Chameleon is my first lizard. For all i know the shock of seeing a snake could kill it, so I need to ask advice. Isn't that the whole point of this forum?
I'm still new to reptiles, I've never kept a snake before and the Chameleon is my first lizard. For all i know the shock of seeing a snake could kill it, so I need to ask advice. Isn't that the whole point of this forum?
jojackson
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Fair enough violentj, but your own thoughts were right, have some faith in yourself.
Seriously, you cant beleive this? Whats the survival chances for a species that simply drops dead at the mere sight of a predator? pretty poor id say.
Perhaps upclose or in/on the chams enclosure might cause it to go into defense mode (dropping to the floor and playing dead) but unlikely to scare it to death, more unlikely that you would do this since you show some intelligence. (the corn is a predator afterall)
Again, in the same room, given its not right next to the cham, naturally, i think shouldnt bother it, but since its your cham, youll simply have to test the waters, so to speak.
Seriously, you cant beleive this? Whats the survival chances for a species that simply drops dead at the mere sight of a predator? pretty poor id say.
Perhaps upclose or in/on the chams enclosure might cause it to go into defense mode (dropping to the floor and playing dead) but unlikely to scare it to death, more unlikely that you would do this since you show some intelligence. (the corn is a predator afterall)
Again, in the same room, given its not right next to the cham, naturally, i think shouldnt bother it, but since its your cham, youll simply have to test the waters, so to speak.
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Corruptedmuffin
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My chameleon has seen my Blue Toungue Skink and isn't bothered by him at all. She looks at him but doesn't appear stressed, doesn't puff up, or change in color. I think it depends on your chameleon's personality.
Eric Adrignola
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they'll be nervous with anythign at first, but they will learn to accept most other animals' presence - SOMETIMES!
My old female veiled used to live with a CB indo blue tongue. It wasnt' a huge cage, either. She was initially nervous, but after a week, she relaxed. I'd throw in a bowl of fruits and veggies, and the two would sit (on the floor of the cage, next to each other), eating from the bowl - no stress colors on her at all. She'd also eat cat food from the bowl with him, which is probabyl why she died of gout some years later. This is like 12 years ago, before I knew animal protein would hurt chameleons if given in quantities.
I also did stupid things like keep a chameleon in with a blue tongue.
Also had a big ambanja with two big standingi (day geckos). They took turns eating, it was weird. but they actually waited for each other to grab something at the food bowl. Crazy thing is that one of the standingi is still alive (this was about 15 years ago)
They generally do not like snakes. Snakes that sleep during the day shouldnt' be a problem. Snakes that are diurnal will most likely stress tham out.
Dogs, cats, tortoises - children - they will get used to, to a degree, but not flying things and snakes, in my experience - they just seem hard-wired to fear them.
My old female veiled used to live with a CB indo blue tongue. It wasnt' a huge cage, either. She was initially nervous, but after a week, she relaxed. I'd throw in a bowl of fruits and veggies, and the two would sit (on the floor of the cage, next to each other), eating from the bowl - no stress colors on her at all. She'd also eat cat food from the bowl with him, which is probabyl why she died of gout some years later. This is like 12 years ago, before I knew animal protein would hurt chameleons if given in quantities.
I also did stupid things like keep a chameleon in with a blue tongue.
Also had a big ambanja with two big standingi (day geckos). They took turns eating, it was weird. but they actually waited for each other to grab something at the food bowl. Crazy thing is that one of the standingi is still alive (this was about 15 years ago)
They generally do not like snakes. Snakes that sleep during the day shouldnt' be a problem. Snakes that are diurnal will most likely stress tham out.
Dogs, cats, tortoises - children - they will get used to, to a degree, but not flying things and snakes, in my experience - they just seem hard-wired to fear them.
jojackson
New Member
If intrested
read http://inny.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=700
Note on above: no mention that any dropped dead.
see also http://inny.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=1865 (video)
still none dropping dead
read http://inny.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=700
Note on above: no mention that any dropped dead.
see also http://inny.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=1865 (video)
still none dropping dead
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alhickabee
New Member
Of course not, but I bet they're are scared shit-less. You'd be scared too if there was a Grizzly bear a couple of feet from your head. Prolonged, un-needed stress can effect a cham's health and eventually could possibly lead to one's demise. Why take the risk?
jojackson
New Member
My point is that it wont die at the sight of the snake. Ive already said, if it stresses, move it. I also said
check the bold. Neither of us was talking about exposing the cham to the snake 'long term'.
or in any way that will sress it for more than a breif moment.
Everyone so often says 'why take the risk'. The answer is.."To Learn." (even if it is the hard way, thats humanity for ya) Nothing is learnt without
loss along the way, if nobody ever took risk it would be a boring world full of fear and ignorance.
check the bold. Neither of us was talking about exposing the cham to the snake 'long term'.
or in any way that will sress it for more than a breif moment.
Everyone so often says 'why take the risk'. The answer is.."To Learn." (even if it is the hard way, thats humanity for ya) Nothing is learnt without
loss along the way, if nobody ever took risk it would be a boring world full of fear and ignorance.
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BocaJan
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~ roflmao ~
alhickabee
New Member
Sorry but I'll never risk my cham's heath purposefully. I don't see how you can correlate taking risks yourself for personal gain to putting your cham at risk for your gain especially since you know what the most likely outcome is. I'm sure your cham already takes all of the risks he wants to which probably isn't many
jojackson
New Member
What personal gain? what is the most likely outcome? You dont give the poster enough credit.
It's about determining risk in order to avoid it (learning), not taking it in this instance. talk sense, if you cant express yourself coherently, why bother? Ill bet you have a fully stocked bomb shelter complete with weapons incase the 'gummint' take over, afterall,
'why take the risk'? geez, Get a life!
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I never intended for this to turn into an argument.
Just to clarify: I want to house a corn snake in the same room as the Chameleon. Being new to Chameleons I don't know what his reaction would be hence starting this thread. If the reply I received was unanimous that it would greatly distress him then I would know in advance to take precautions.
I never intended to put the snake in my Chameleons enclosure or hold it up to his face.
Just to clarify: I want to house a corn snake in the same room as the Chameleon. Being new to Chameleons I don't know what his reaction would be hence starting this thread. If the reply I received was unanimous that it would greatly distress him then I would know in advance to take precautions.
I never intended to put the snake in my Chameleons enclosure or hold it up to his face.
