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I actually just took the old computer to a tech today to see if he could salvage any of the older pics of Raiden from the fried hard drive to show you guys. His blue bars were almost purple and the white on him was almost completely red. Drew

Congrats Kevin, be sure you keep me updated. I love seeing little Raiden grandbabies. The females tend to carry the trait so they should look just like Raiden. Enjoy!

Do you have any pics of the rest of the males from that clutch? Similar to Raiden.... But Raiden did produce red babies from this guys line.

I really dont want to see this get closed. I think we should all woo-saa (rub the ears) and chillax for the rest of the night. Lets come back to this tomorrow when we have had a good sleep.....please :)

LMAO thats awesome.....

I tired that awhile back but got the same thing............ I was told that I was comparing humans to chameleons lol. It happens in all mammals, reptiles, amphibians and so on. Label it as what it looks like since we are on the fence. If it is red, white and blue call it a Faly. It it has more...

I cant prove they were or they were not. I only have the babies to look at and say what they are. I asked the opinion of others so that I could get different ideas. I have been doing this a long time and I have seen it with other locales but now that it is happening with this one...... Who...

Raiden and Nala were both CB from Screameleons. Raiden was from Wylde and Nala from Slash. The mothers on both sides were WC and this is where I think the crossing occured if some are showing the strong reds. I definitely appreciate the input Chuck. Whatever they are they did turn out pretty...

Exactly. So even though they are producing some pure white crosses you are still going to see the the other colors from Ambanja. So Raiden and or Nala were crosses.

I have spoke with them on this matter. Ed does agree that some will look pure while others look crossed. As long as they are sold as such.

Clark you still seem to think you know my lines better than I do. You did not breed these. So you dont know, you did not sell them, so you dont know. I bread them, I know. I cant find where you have produced any of these either so you dont know. You cant call one brother pure and the other a...

See some think they are faly and some think they are crosses. Either way if you think they are crosses they are crosses. If you think they are pure well they are pure. Either way people are still going to take them because of the way he looked, not because of what he produced.

Our incubation periods are longer in most. They usually run 10-11 months, some longer, some shorter. I believe in slower incubation times. They make stronger and healthier babies. =Texas Ranger;729230]Ok that's fine you are the breeder of all these chams and what you say is I guess...

The one at the beginning of this thread I do believe ismfrom Nala and Raiden. The last two clutches took close to 14 month incubation. I only had one other clutch that took longer. It is quite possible that this guy is a little older than is being said. Thee solid red ones started showing up...

I first noticed the crazy color in the very first clutch, but it was only one. Many of you have seen how that guy turned out. Then there were two in the second that went to a wholesaler because of the odd color. Then the next clutch and so on. I assumed they were pure cause most of them were...

I dont have anything to compare to either Rob. Nobody else has been able to post pics of 10-20 fully grown adult males that they have produced from their faly pairing. There just simply has not been enough time. I was the first in Canada with them and they were still very new in the US. So not...

I just said that Raiden and/or Nala were crosses. Last page. Raiden came from Wylde and a WC female. Nala came from Slash and a WC female. If these two are producing both the red, white, and blue ones as well as these full red body ones then there would have to be some crossing in the WC females.

Well since you are a science man like myself and you definitely know more about genetics than I do I will go with it, I will say this guy is a cross So saying that and based on opinions of the many experienced, as much as I regretfully must state that the Raiden and Nala line would have to be...

This might actually be the best place for this, sorry I kind of hijacked your thread Canny. Do you think these are pure or crosses. Every faly keepers opinion is valued.:)

Thats awesome Hoj, you forgot the kilt and frog legs. I laughed the whole way home on Sunday after we had that talk.