1-month-old Nosy Be Panther Chameleon...

Aced0324

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2 weeks ago I got my first male Nosy Be. Hes semi-active, but I have yet to see him eat and I know the crickets are small enough. Any suggestions? Thank you!
 
If you fill out the how to ask for help form, that might help us help you better. I can't give you the now tho becs I'm typing this thru my phone :). Someone will provide it tho.

Have you tried fruit flies?

He was only two weeks old when you got him?
 
If you fill out the how to ask for help form, that might help us help you better. I can't give you the now tho becs I'm typing this thru my phone :). Someone will provide it tho.

Have you tried fruit flies?

He was only two weeks old when you got him?
He was actually 1 month old when i got him, The guy sold him to me really cheap cuz i was gambling on if it was male/female, but his colors are coming out and its a male.

Where can i get that help form?

I never thought of fruit flies, but Ill try that for now.
Thanks alot.
 
1 month old?

You say he is only 1 month old and you have had him for 2 weeks? So you got him at 2 weeks old?
 
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You say he is only 1 month old and you have had him for 2 weeks? So you got him at 2 weeks old?

Ok, see you answered this already, but still 1 month is young to be sold to someone. Did you see I posted the link for you?
 
i have a 2 month old nosy be, gambling the same way as you haha, but i think i got a female, since i dont see any blue coming in, or mine just might be a late bloomer :p. When i first brough my cham home from the expo i had bought pinhead crickets and fruit flies, she ate right away as soon as i put the food into the cage. Since its been 2 weeks your cham should have gotten use to the enclosure by now. How many are you feeding per day?
 
He was actually 1 month old when i got him, The guy sold him to me really cheap cuz i was gambling on if it was male/female, but his colors are coming out and its a male.

Where can i get that help form?

I never thought of fruit flies, but Ill try that for now.
Thanks alot.

If it's only 1 and 1/2 months old color is not an indicator, take a picture of the base of the tail and we can sex it for you. Filling out the help form will help us narrow down possibilities why he's not eating.
 
So heres the info:


Chameleon Info:
• Your Chameleon – Age: 1m 2wk, Sex: Male Panther Cham. Had him for 2 weeks
• Handling – Not often, 3-5 times a week.
• Feeding – Feeding him gut-loaded baby Crix, 20 every other day. Free-Roaming
• Supplements – Zoo Med Calcium with D3. dusting feeders before I throw them in the cage.
• Watering – Water bottle misting. I try to do it as much as 3 times a day. I don’t always catch him drinking.
• Fecal Description – Dark brown with some white. Never tested for parasites. Also, its either hard to find the droppings or hes not eating.
• History – They told me as long as the bugs are smaller than the head, they should be ok to eat. The other night I noticed him backing away as a cricket neared him.

Cage Info:
• Cage Type – Screen about 24”x22” and 26” height.
• Lighting – Zoo Med UVB, and a 60w red bulb for heat.
• Temperature - Floor is mid 70s basking spot is 90-100.. Night time is about 10degrees less
• Humidity – Varies, I try to keep it above 60%
• Plants – Fake plants and vines.
• Placement – It is near a closed window for sunlight and shade. Bottom of the cage is about 2 feet of the ground.
• Location – North Hollywood, CA

Current Problem – Havnt seen him eating, or drinking much.
 
Basking is high. 80-85 would be max cause he is so young. What kind of UVB, 5.0, 10.0 etc? Linear or coil? Should be using 3 supplements. Calcium w/o d3, every feeding, and a multi vitamin and calcium w/d3 twice a month or so. You don't need a heat bulb just a 40-60 watt house bulb will do. You probably have it too hot in there for him!!! Also, could you post a picture of your whole set up so we can try and figure out why this little guy does not want to eat!
 
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85 is even to hot for a baby. I would try to keep it around 80 or below if possible for the first 3 months. I dont use a heat bulb at all for baby panthers that I raise. The heat from the flourescents keeps it right at 80F or so. Try getting your temps down and mist more often to make sure he is hydrated.
 
Eating/drinking

Keep misting and if you do not have a little dripper you may want to get one of those and run that a few times a day in addition to the hand misting. Some Chams are secrete drinkers so as long as you are providing mistings and drippings and his poop looks good dark with the white urates then he is doing fine with the hydration even if you don't "see" him drinking. However I am concerned about the fact that you do not see him eating and of course that is something you would know for sure due to number of Crickets still in his enclosure. Also at his age you should be offering him food every day maybe 12 crickets a day he could also be offered flightless fruit flies as well on top of the crickets. (Make sure the crickets are size appropriate for him)

He should be eating for you at this stage in the game. As Carol mentioned you may have it too hot for him for starters. As she said if there is anyway you can post some pics that would be helpful. And also she ask what UVB bulb? 5.0 or 10.0?
 
85 is even to hot for a baby. I would try to keep it around 80 or below if possible for the first 3 months. I dont use a heat bulb at all for baby panthers that I raise. The heat from the flourescents keeps it right at 80F or so. Try getting your temps down and mist more often to make sure he is hydrated.

I agree with reptoman here, when i first picked up my little guy, he was all really dehydrated, his urates were bright orange. I had a 60w heat bulb which kept the cage pretty hot about 86-87, then someone suggested a 40w household bulb. Worked like a charm the basking spot ranges from 80-82. Small chameleons dont like being watched when they are drinking, i know haha, i walked into my room and caught my little guy drinking, he stopped right away and moved along like nothing happened haha. As for the feeders dont feed something that is longer than the width between your chameleons eyes is what i was told :) so pin heads and fruit flies lol MAYBE some really small meal worms, i just picked up some and they are pretty small :p
 
History – They told me as long as the bugs are smaller than the head, they should be ok to eat. The other night I noticed him backing away as a cricket neared him.
Current Problem – Havnt seen him eating, or drinking much.


Little guys should be pounding down the crickets, him backing away could be a sign that the crickets are too big. The flightless fruit flies are a great idea. I would also get smaller crickets.

A baby that small I would put him in a bin instead of a cage just to assure he can find food easier.
 
OK, so can the high heat make him not want to eat? also the Bulb is a 5.0 and i got some photos of his setup:

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I notice both of your lights are dome lights. The 5.0 should really be a linear not a coil. The coils have been well known to call issues with chameleons, such as eye problems. Get yourself a tubular for sure!!! also, hate to tell you this, but get rid of that substrate in the bottom of your cage. If you cham did go to shoot at a cricket and picks up a piece of that and ingests it you are in big trouble. It can cause an impaction and your chameleon will not be able to poop! Everyone on the forum has had great success with the Reptisun 5.0 tube.
 
i dunno but a 24x22x26 cage seems a tiny bit big to me for a 1 month old but thats just me. whats the substrate you are using?
 
Do you know what size the baby crix are?

Getting rid of the substrate is alawys a good idea :)


You can get a culture of already producing fruit flys from one of the sponsors here, joshsfrogs look for hyedi flies, they are larger than the melano but take longer to start producing, thats why you need a culture that is already in production. Or, do you have a shop around you that sells them?
 
Right now im using small crickets, a lil bigger than pin heads, but its smaller than his head.

Ill look around for some fruit flies but i still got some more questions (since the reptile store had no/horrible answers)

Am i doing the whole calcium dusting enough?
And what would be a good idea to put on the floor of the cage?
And should i gut-load before puting the bugs in the cage?

Thanks alot guys. im glad i found this forum.
 
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