lbesok
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Well said my friend.
chicken or fish !!!!!
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Well said my friend.
Brad Ramsey
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Brad Ramsey
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Never have, never will.
It is a terrible idea (in my opinion)
Although, one has to consider that chameleons often come across blind baby tree mice in their natural environment.
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Chris Anderson
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As are anoles running free in Florida, Brad.
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jojothefirst
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nobody was comparing fish 2 chams.....the point being made was if 1 type of animal can eat a certain type of food that they would never encounter in the wild, is it possible that it could apply to chams.
The best answer answer is, yes in certain things. (im pretty sure dubia roches arnt found in madagasca or yemen) but nobody actual knows if they can eat the things you are talking about and since they dont eat them in the wild its best not to try it.
The best answer answer is, yes in certain things. (im pretty sure dubia roches arnt found in madagasca or yemen) but nobody actual knows if they can eat the things you are talking about and since they dont eat them in the wild its best not to try it.
mrniceveiled
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Wow
It's not that big of a deal! I wouldn't consider feeding them this daily but come on they will be OK. My male veiled will eat anything. He will crawl out of his cage when he smells food in my room lol. One time he ate some smoked ham i left in his cage, just to see if he would eat it. He sure did! I too feel like a lot of people on this forum are haters if you don't do everything tip top when it comes to Cham care. Yea there are important factors to keep a healthy animal, but we don't have to have a heart attack over it! People say chams get so stressed when you handle them too, i tend to disagree with that too! How can you stress an animal out when he obviously crawls out on to your arm. In conclusion I say take proper care but don't get over compulsive!
It's not that big of a deal! I wouldn't consider feeding them this daily but come on they will be OK. My male veiled will eat anything. He will crawl out of his cage when he smells food in my room lol. One time he ate some smoked ham i left in his cage, just to see if he would eat it. He sure did! I too feel like a lot of people on this forum are haters if you don't do everything tip top when it comes to Cham care. Yea there are important factors to keep a healthy animal, but we don't have to have a heart attack over it! People say chams get so stressed when you handle them too, i tend to disagree with that too! How can you stress an animal out when he obviously crawls out on to your arm. In conclusion I say take proper care but don't get over compulsive!
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
It's not that big of a deal! I wouldn't consider feeding them this daily but come on they will be OK. My male veiled will eat anything. He will crawl out of his cage when he smells food in my room lol. One time he ate some smoked ham i left in his cage, just to see if he would eat it. He sure did! I too feel like a lot of people on this forum are haters if you don't do everything tip top when it comes to Cham care. Yea there are important factors to keep a healthy animal, but we don't have to have a heart attack over it! People say chams get so stressed when you handle them too, i tend to disagree with that too! How can you stress an animal out when he obviously crawls out on to your arm. In conclusion I say take proper care but don't get over compulsive!
Ahh yes, the voice of inexperience and ignorance. One thing you'll learn after you keep your first veiled cham for more then 2 months is that it is best to avoid activities that marginalize your chameleon's health. Chameleons can be complicated enough to keep, no need to add to their sensitivity being stupid and feeding them crap like smoked ham or large quantities of vertebrate prey items.
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justjumpit621
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As are anoles running free in Florida, Brad.
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I meant when I asked about feeding nightcrawlers everyone told me no because they carry parasites and obviously unless they are in a compost bin they are not very nutritious. No need to poke fun guys
justjumpit621
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Baby mice, rats, hamsters and gerbils are thankfully 100% parasite free!
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You know captive bred they basically are. Who would feed a reptile a wild caught Mouse/rat?? Besides having parasites both internally and externally and even disease they can eat ANYTHING including insulation, rotting garbage, and poison.
justjumpit621
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This is what they are planning to do, as a treat once every one or two months.
Chris Anderson
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justjumpit621 - The point was you were quick to cast aside the use of one feeder item because of parasites yet in the same post recommend others that will likely also have parasites (wild caught anoles). Further, you do realize that the crickets we give our chams are also frequently not parasite free, right?
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justjumpit621
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Yes I understand, but I was just stating what everyone else stated to me, not to use earthworms. I have already asked the same question and was almost imediately shut down so I figured I would post what I knew. I was also basing my opinion on the fact that they are not nutritious. They eat dirt, and even when in a compost bin, the compost is rotting and moldy, not a good thing. I have heard many people say not to feed off feeders that have been exposed to mold.
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
Absolutely, you don't want to use feeders that have been exposed to mold. I wasn't recommending the use of earthworms as a feeder, just pointing out the flaws in the logic of your post.
Similarly, you are in agreement with me that pinkies should only be fed as an occasional treat to healthy chameleons yet you admit you feed your female pinkies. Your female is far from the epitome of health and with her history of illnesses and treatments, which likely have compromised her kidneys, animal proteins should be used very carefully and I would stick on the side of caution and avoid them.
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Elizadolots
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I am unclear if the original poster is new to chameleons but this is another of those areas where I sort of think the new owner needs to stick to "known to work" and save experimenting for those with more experience. Branching out and experimenting can happen later if at all.
justjumpit621
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Yes I know this now, I gave it to her 6 months ago because I had an extra (I have a cornsnake) and to tell you the truth 6 months ago she was probably healthier than she is today. Her infection got worse afterward once she was off of her first antibiotic. So I have only given it to her once, but I found it was one of the only treats she actually enjoyed eating.
Brad Ramsey
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In this thread you recommend feeding pinkies to a chameleon at least 3 times, yet you have only ever fed one to your one and only chameleon.
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summoner12
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HOLY FREAKIN COW! Why this huge influx of silly questions?
Hey Chris, is a pinkie bad, period? or is it just bad more than once a year? I offered them up once and only 2 or 3 of my chams had any interest. the ones that were interested were VERY interested... I don't think they were more hungry than my other chams, but I forgot to ask
My opinion and I guess my understanding is that it is ok maybe once a year? but shouldn't really be a annual routine...... I guess what I am saying... will it hurt them once or twice maybe three time to have a pink in their adult life?
Hey Chris, is a pinkie bad, period? or is it just bad more than once a year? I offered them up once and only 2 or 3 of my chams had any interest. the ones that were interested were VERY interested... I don't think they were more hungry than my other chams, but I forgot to ask
My opinion and I guess my understanding is that it is ok maybe once a year? but shouldn't really be a annual routine...... I guess what I am saying... will it hurt them once or twice maybe three time to have a pink in their adult life?
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