Did I get sold a fake veiled?
- Thread starter Orin
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Brad Ramsey
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Kent,
I'm looking for it!
Of course, I can't locate it...but it's here somewhere.
-Brad
Scotty
New Member
Good thread, very interesting, good info Brad,Kent,Catherine & Co....I've been reading info i've googled on these different specie.
My question is that white patch on his head, is that a skin infection/disease or does it change colour?
Is it only prominent when he's pissed off?
Cheers
Scott.
My question is that white patch on his head, is that a skin infection/disease or does it change colour?
Is it only prominent when he's pissed off?
Cheers
Scott.
dodolah
Retired Moderator
so basically the only difference is the casque and perhaps the attitude?
if the care is exactly the same, then i would love to get the arabicus next time..
especially if they are more mellow.
hmm.. i see..
thanks for the pics, Brad.
To all of you out there that deal with importers.... Wouldn't they be fairly easy to get as they are in the same area as the veiled and they are still exported. I know nothing about all the variables involved with exporting. Are they considered endangered or more rare than the veiled? Thanks. David
Is this the same animal?
http://www.hiropark.com/album_picture/a-chameleons/132-3294_img (2).jpg
http://www.hiropark.com/album_picture/a-chameleons/132-3294_img (2).jpg
Orin
New Member
I apparently didn't explain his colors. THIS PHOTO SHOWS HIS ANGRY COLORS!!! He looks like a female panther when he's not angry. If that were just his normal coloration and he had cool angry colors I probably woudn't have used the word ugly.
Yes, the white is part of his shed and it fell off a few hours after the photo (when I finally got around to taking the photo he was shedding and figured I might as well take a picture before I get busy with something else).
Brad Ramsey
Retired Moderator
Couple more pictures of Chamaeleo calyptratus calcarifer
For anyone still interested:
This is the hybrid (calyptratus/arabicus).
Sometimes it takes me awhile to dig up stuff
-Brad
For anyone still interested:
This is the hybrid (calyptratus/arabicus).
Sometimes it takes me awhile to dig up stuff
-Brad
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dodolah
Retired Moderator
For anyone still interested:
This is the hybrid (calyptratus/arabicus).
Sometimes it takes me awhile to dig up stuff
-Brad
whowee... I can't tell the difference (except for the low casque)..
hmmmm...if this guy mellower than calyptratus.. I just might try caring for them.. I'm guessing the care is the same as veiled, no?
boothy
New Member
hey heres a picture of a baby i raised up to full adult hood from my european bloodlines and you can see the high yellows and oranges in him and as he ages those oranges turn a browny colours and the yellow gets abit faded so there colours look off to some ppl its just either they are stressed or just geting old but heres that picture of the male i have ahah hes on a hunger strike only going back and forth from feeders , so he'll eat like 12 crickets one day then its butterworms the next and silkies the next and then he will go with out for days and then back to crickets so he a fussy fella but yea when hes back outa his hunger strike ill deff be taking pics of him ahah hes just abit skinny right now but hes geting back on track the bugger
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Chameleons Northwest
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Aaaah. I see. I would be interested in seeing a photo of him at his resting colors. If his coloration is that different from other veileds, he may actually be quite valuable, even for breeding purposes. People seem to like unusual morphs. The old "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Frankly, I find the translucent veileds to be a bit unattractive, but apparently they are highly desirable to others.
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Brad Ramsey
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Might be a bit difficult to find.
They are not terribly common in the hobby here in the states...although as previously mentioned, a lot of the veileds here probably have a bit of arabicus blood running through their veins.
-Brad
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
For anyone still interested:
This is the hybrid (calyptratus/arabicus).
Sometimes it takes me awhile to dig up stuff
-Brad
I've always found it interesting that every captive animal I've seen photographed as a claimed "Ch. (Ch.) calyptratus calcarifer" is suffering from MBD. Take a look at the front limb in the second photo. I have never seen a photo of a captive "calcarifer" that didn't show symptoms of MBD which, interestingly enough, also includes a shorter casque if the MBD started early in development.
Chris
dodolah
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Brad Ramsey
Retired Moderator
Chris,
Thank you for pointing that out.
It is interesting.....I wonder why. Surely they are not all just calyptratus with MBD.
It's pretty hard to find photos of them in the first place.
I wonder if many of the pictures are not actually calcarifer.
-Brad
Thank you for pointing that out.
It is interesting.....I wonder why. Surely they are not all just calyptratus with MBD.
It's pretty hard to find photos of them in the first place.
I wonder if many of the pictures are not actually calcarifer.
-Brad
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
Chris,
Thank you for pointing that out.
It is interesting.....I wonder why. Surely they are not all just calyptratus with MBD.
It's pretty hard to find photos of them in the first place.
I wonder if many of the pictures are not actually calcarifer.
-Brad
My personal opinion is that none of the pictures actually are calcarifer (or rather true hybrids between calyptratus and arabicus). I've never seen a photo of a wild calcarifer, only drawings and written explanations.
Chris
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