Hatched but then died, why?

[CatJ]

Hi,
So my little panther cham egg, laid 8 months ago, started to hatch this morning. Everything looked fine. Egg started beading with sweat, developed translucent patches, then split at the end. Several hours and a lots of wriggles later out popped a head. But that's it. Baby did not fully emerge and then stopped moving. That was 5 hours ago and theres no sign of life. Why? What is the success rate for hatching?
The egg was untouched, we did not interfere. Its been kept at 24oC since being laid 23/09/23. I'm really sad, and keen to know why as I have another clutch due to hatch in about 6 weeks.

 

[elizaann2]

@Beman @MissSkittles can you help? I don’t know anything about hatchlings

 

[MissSkittles]

I’m so sorry. Are you certain it has passed? I don’t know about hatching and hatchlings. @kinyonga @jannb @JacksJill certainly will have some insight. I only know that sometimes and for reasons which we can’t see, babies will fail.

 

[kinyonga]

Leave it there for now. You want to make sure it’s really dead before you give up on it. Hatching is a lot of work. They have to absorb the remaining yolk and rest usually before they crawl out of the egg. Leave the container in the incubator with that lid on.

 

[kinyonga]

These might help…


I DO NOT RECOMMEND HELPING THEM OUT LIKE THIS GUY DID…I’m just posting it so you can hear him say about the one not looking food/moving in the beginning but bein ok in the end…

 

[jannb]

Hi,
So my little panther cham egg, laid 8 months ago, started to hatch this morning. Everything looked fine. Egg started beading with sweat, developed translucent patches, then split at the end. Several hours and a lots of wriggles later out popped a head. But that's it. Baby did not fully emerge and then stopped moving. That was 5 hours ago and theres no sign of life. Why? What is the success rate for hatching?
The egg was untouched, we did not interfere. Its been kept at 24oC since being laid 23/09/23. I'm really sad, and keen to know why as I have another clutch due to hatch in about 6 weeks.
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This is common. It can take a while to get out.

 

[CatJ]

Thank you all. I did as u said and left him alone in the container in the viv. And I've woken up this morning to........



How amazing is that!!

 

[MissSkittles]

Yay! I love happy endings! Total cutie! Just do be careful as that might be his yolk still attached.

 

[CatJ]

Yay! I love happy endings! Total cutie! Just do be careful as that might be his yolk still attached.

Yep, I'm leaving him alone. This pic was literally taking him out of the tub this morning and i was soooo careful! I've put some tiny fruit flies in for him and leaving him be. He/she seems to be healthy. Fingers crossed I can keep them that way

 

[JacksJill]

Sometimes they just stop mid hatch to rest. Other times they need help. Glad it worked out.

 

[kinyonga]

I see some yolk left under its belly in the photo of it sitting on your hand. You have to watch that it doesn’t get stuck to something in the cage and rip the ”umbilical” cord off. Hopefully it will get absorbed quickly.

 

[Ghostbirb]

Oh yay! I'm so happy they made it out ok! What an adorable little baby you have right now! Congratulations!

 

[ToastyCham]

Thank you all. I did as u said and left him alone in the container in the viv. And I've woken up this morning to........

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How amazing is that!!

He’s so adorable!

 

[CatJ]

Hi all,
Look at this lil baba now! 2 months old and getting big. Do I have a boy or girl here though? I've been through Google, chats, the cham academy, but still can't tell!

 

[Sonny13]

What a cutie, difficult but my first guess would be boy

 

[MissSkittles]

Adorable baby! It’s hard to see because of low contrast between baby and leaf, but I believe I do see a hemipenal bulge.

 

[JacksJill]

I see a trace of boyness but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.