I adopted a Veiled, help with a few questions!

Wooohoooooo!!!!:D
 

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VeiledChams said:
Awesomee:D

You cant give up!
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Yea, im super stoked!! I remember Jannb mentioned that they get territoral when caged. So i tried something today when i got home from work. I got a wooden clothes hanger and got him to walk onto it and took him out. He made a b-line up the hanger and straight up my arm , to my shoulders and ontop my head.

He never once hissed or looked stressed. I put my hand up to my head and he climbed onto my hand. I handled him for about 5 minutes,let me 2 year old Sophia touch his tail and put him back. Sucess!!!:D

It felt almost too easy! lol
 
Excellent! He'll be eating out of your hand next....... We have a new addict to add to the collection, lol
 
JonRich said:
Yea, im super stoked!! I remember Jannb mentioned that they get territoral when caged. So i tried something today when i got home from work. I got a wooden clothes hanger and got him to walk onto it and took him out. He made a b-line up the hanger and straight up my arm , to my shoulders and ontop my head.

He never once hissed or looked stressed. I put my hand up to my head and he climbed onto my hand. I handled him for about 5 minutes,let me 2 year old Sophia touch his tail and put him back. Sucess!!!:D

It felt almost too easy! lol
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That's the best way to do it. Let them get onto something they see as not being threatening such as a plant or an inanimate object like the hanger. Once they are out, they are not so angry (except my guy..haha, he'll fight till the death)
 
DavidBuchan said:
Excellent! He'll be eating out of your hand next....... We have a new addict to add to the collection, lol
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yea man! im hooked , along with my girls!!

like i want to play with him now, but he's fast sleeping. Guess i'll have to wait till morning!
 
JonRich said:
Well i am not new to keeping reptiles ( and other exotic animals)..

I had a Veiled in my Environmental Studies class in college, but as far as actually keeping one myself this is all new!

Well i got a call from my Sister stating that she knew of someone needing a good home for their pet Chameleon ! (didnt know what kind or what to expect really. i was just told it was 6 month.)But i said "sure , i'd give it a shot.

I got it late lastnight and was a bit suprised. It was a beautiful male Veiled (didn't look 6 months , more like a year). But i didnt want to stress him with gauking eyes, so i just set the terrarium in a corner and let him sleep out the night in peace.

I have already read quite a bit about husbandry, but still have a few questions that i feel i can only get from one's personal experience.

Please bare with me , i might have a lot of questions!
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PS: he slept at around 75*,this morning i had him under the basking light for about an hour (80*) before turning on the heat lamp (89*90*) while i went to the LPS to get him something to eat.

The previous owner had him eating roaches My wife would KILL me if i brought a roach into the house. So i got a mix of live foods to see which i can make due with. Crickets, mealworms and waxworms is what i eneded up with................. He ate them ALL in this order Crickets(5)-mealworms(10)-Waxxworms (5). I guess he ate the Crickets first just because they were more active!

Now my first questions.. Getting this guy to drink. He does lapp up some dropps of water when i mist the tank, but i feel like it's not enough.
Any tricks/tips?
I read about the icecube on the mesh lid melting drip trick and having it drip into a dish. But i have a little bit of surface rust on the mesh screen and didnt want to contaminate the water he'd possibly drink.

Any way , here are some pix from throught today.
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mealworms and waxworms are very high fat and low protein plus mealworms are hard on the digestive system so try not to feed them more than once a week. altho iv bn discusing with people how if its the outter shell of the mealworm thats bad if feeding freshly molted mealworms could be a better for there health.
 
Thezillaman21 said:
mealworms and waxworms are very high fat and low protein plus mealworms are hard on the digestive system so try not to feed them more than once a week. altho iv bn discusing with people how if its the outter shell of the mealworm thats bad if feeding freshly molted mealworms could be a better for there health.
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thanks for the info. So i guess it's Crickets then ( and i can try to sneek some Dubias once or twice a week. Ifff i can find them locally)
 
JonRich said:
thanks for the info. So i guess it's Crickets then ( and i can try to sneek some Dubias once or twice a week. Ifff i can find them locally)
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You can feed superworms as "treats".. You can also get hornworms. They are not gross at all.. They are actually very interesting. They are good for hydrating. You can also get katydids, grasshoppers, and many other insects that dont freak out the wife! haha
 
VeiledChams said:
You can feed superworms as "treats".. You can also get hornworms. They are not gross at all.. They are actually very interesting. They are good for hydrating. You can also get katydids, grasshoppers, and many other insects that dont freak out the wife! haha
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damn! soo many worms, lol

meal, super,horn, waxm lol

So meal and wax worms = fastfood worms ,high in fat but low in protine
Crickets are good once gutloaded but noisey
Dubia's are the $hit!! But the wife hates em

Its good that you speak about hydration because i feel as though he is not getting/drinking as much water as i'd like. I'll look into the hornworms.
 
JonRich said:
damn! soo many worms, lol

meal, super,horn, waxm lol

So meal and wax worms = fastfood worms ,high in fat but low in protine
Crickets are good once gutloaded but noisey
Dubia's are the $hit!! But the wife hates em

Its good that you speak about hydration because i feel as though he is not getting/drinking as much water as i'd like. I'll look into the hornworms.
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Crickets are awesome :) hahaha.. I love ripping their legs off.. :rolleyes:

Go on mulberry farms (site sponsor).. they sell horn worms for cheap. Also, Dave also sells them.. Look him up in the classifieds.
 
VeiledChams said:
Crickets are awesome :) hahaha.. I love ripping their legs off.. :rolleyes:

Go on mulberry farms (site sponsor).. they sell horn worms for cheap. Also, Dave also sells them.. Look him up in the classifieds.
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ill be sure to check them out..In the mean time it's only been 3 hours since lights out and there are already 5-6 Dubia's in the "trap" cup. Kamo should be happy in the morning. Breakfast in bed!
 

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JonRich said:
ill be sure to check them out..In the mean time it's only been 3 hours since lights out and there are already 5-6 Dubia's in the "trap" cup. Kamo should be happy in the morning. Breakfast in bed!
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You are definitely doing great with that guy! Remember to feed him every 2-3 days..not every day
 
JonRich said:
Oh damn, why not everyday? I read to feed everyday and dust 2-3 days.It's always good to have a 2nd opinion.
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He's almost full grown, or at least 8 months.. If you feed every day, he'll become obese!
As far as dusting, here's what i do with my guy:
Monday-saturday: Calcium W/O D3
Sunday: Alternate between multivitamins and calcium W/ D3 (one sunday one, the next the other)
 
VeiledChams said:
He's almost full grown, or at least 8 months.. If you feed every day, he'll become obese!
As far as dusting, here's what i do with my guy:
Monday-saturday: Calcium W/O D3
Sunday: Alternate between multivitamins and calcium W/ D3 (one sunday one, the next the other)
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im a lil :confused:. So you do feed 7 days? Just Calcium 6 days and on the 7th you alternate between multivitamins/Cal with D3?

Or are you dosing Cal without actually "feeding"?
 
JonRich said:
im a lil :confused:. So you do feed 7 days? Just Calcium 6 days and on the 7th you alternate between multivitamins/Cal with D3?

Or are you dosing Cal without actually "feeding"?
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I feed every other day, but I say Monday-Saturday cause I'm too lazy to write out each day.

And yes, every feeding that is Monday-Saturday use Ca w/o D3. On Sunday you alternate multivitamins and Ca w/ D3.

Here it is easier to understand:
Monday- Ca w/o D3
Tuesday- Skip
Wednesday- Ca w/o D3
Thursday- Skip
Friday- Ca w/o D3
Saturday- Skip
Sunday- Alternate between Multivitamins and Ca w/ D3


Also, since you'd feed Monday and Sunday, feed him just a little less (i.e instead of 6 crickets, feed him 4)
 
VeiledChams said:
Here it is easier to understand:
Monday- Ca w/o D3
Tuesday- Skip
Wednesday- Ca w/o D3
Thursday- Skip
Friday- Ca w/o D3
Saturday- Skip
Sunday- Alternate between Multivitamins and Ca w/ D3
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ahhhh, i see what you did there! lol;)

got it! So i was deffinatly overfeeding him. One day he ate 8 crickets,10 mealworms and 4 waxworms.
 
That schedule you have is wayy better and manageable.

I'll buy only what he will eat for that day, since there is a petshop a few blocks from me and i pass it everyday on my walk home. This way there are no crickets chirping overnight (or feed him the male crickets first;))

While we are at it, is it better for him to eat female crickets over males. I say because they seem to be bigger and are probable loaded with eggs.Because i'm sure they will let me pick out females at my LPS!
I'll keep some superworms at all times , justtt incase there is a snowstorm or freak hurricane!:rolleyes:

Why didn't i get a Cham before again? This seems too easy :knock on wood:
 
JonRich said:
That schedule you have is wayy better and manageable.

I'll buy only what he will eat for that day, since there is a petshop a few blocks from me and i pass it everyday on my walk home. This way there are no crickets chirping overnight (or feed him the male crickets first;))

I'll keep some superworms at all times , justtt incase there is a hurricane of snowstorm!:rolleyes:

Why didn't i get a Cham before again? This seems too easy :knock on wood:
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You have to gutload your crickets though. Buy them in the morning, leave them in a bin with plenty of fruits and veggies (check Sandrachameleon's blog for gutloading).. Otherwise the cham will not get the nutrients it needs.

Here's the link to the blog:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/75-feeder-nutrition-gutloading.html
 
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