I need help

[MelissaB]

I bought my chameleon 10 days ago from lllrpetile, he's a baby veiled. 8 days ago, he was really active eating and moving around like a normal Cham... But like 2 to 3 days ago he's weird with eyes like falling asleep and kind of weak .
It really scare me because I been really careful with him giving his respective calcium and d3. The cage were I have him is a chameleon cantina without a UBV, just 100 watt heating bulb and a 75 watt night bulb that's it. He hasn't eate since yesterday all I'm doing is giving him water since he doesn't want to eat. Pls pls need help

I think part of the problem is the cage. If you're using the rounded plastic Chameleon Cantina, I would change it. I also think your temps are too high, especially in that cage setup. I would change to a 60 watt household incandescent bulb, and then measure your temps again.

The dial type temperature gauge may or may not be accurate, if that's what you're using. If you have a digital thermometer, or a thermometer of any type that you know is accurate, I would use that to see what your temps are. Take a reading at the basking spot and lower down, too. So you know what the basking and ambient temps are.

I would also get rid of the night time bulb, he doesn't need it.

He also needs a UVB bulb, it's very important. I see you have a dual dome light fixture. You can put the 60 watt bulb for basking on one side, and a compact fluorecescent (cfl) 5.0 UVB bulb on the other.

 

[mvad]

So what do you guys recommend me to do right now! I don't want to lose him!!!

Not to be rude but do some research before acquiring an advanced reptile like a chameleon. Chameleon cantinas are NOT good enclosures for a chameleon. I know your looking for help to save your chameleon but please read the following:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/chameleons/

 

[Kayroxyoursox]

Not to be rude but do some research before acquiring an advanced reptile like a chameleon. Chameleon cantinas are NOT good enclosures for a chameleon. I know your looking for help to save your chameleon but please read the following:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/chameleons/

I was going to say the same thing but I didn't want to be rude. Even if you buy them not knowing anything about them the info is out there and so easy to find. I didn't know anything about chameleons when I got my first one, but I have spent a lot of time since then learning about them, how to care for them, and what they need to thrive.

 

[MelissaB]

I understand what you guys are saying, but the way that Chameleon Cantina is marketed, I can see how someone with less experience would think it was what they needed. They get bad advice from someone who doesn't know better, and think they have everything they need. Fortunately the original poster found this website, and can get some help.

I hope your little guy feels better soon.

 

[jajeanpierre]

Your temperatures are way too high. Get them down and turn off the night light. He is fine down to night temps in the 50s. At high temps they dehydrate really quickly. Put him in a shower several times a day to get him hydrated. Don't let the shower hit him directly. Have him on a plant and aim the shower to a wall so he gets the fine mist bouncing off the walls do it for at least 20 minutes at a time. I hope it isn't too late. Babies need lower temps than adults.

 

[leedragon]

I bought my chameleon 10 days ago from lllrpetile, he's a baby veiled. 8 days ago, he was really active eating and moving around like a normal Cham... But like 2 to 3 days ago he's weird with eyes like falling asleep and kind of weak .
It really scare me because I been really careful with him giving his respective calcium and d3. The cage were I have him is a chameleon cantina without a UBV, just 100 watt heating bulb and a 75 watt night bulb that's it. He hasn't eate since yesterday all I'm doing is giving him water since he doesn't want to eat. Pls pls need help

thats one ofthe worst containers for chameleons, you need either a terrarium with full net at the top and ventilation net on fron too or a full screen cgae

 

[Duwen]

Not to be rude but do some research before acquiring an advanced reptile like a chameleon. Chameleon cantinas are NOT good enclosures for a chameleon. I know your looking for help to save your chameleon but please read the following:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/chameleons/

I did a lots of researches online and I also bought a book about chameleons but the problem is that I watch a YouTube Chanel about chameleon setup and one of the bulbs that they use was a 100watt bulb with a 165 GALLON TANK and I did the same as they but with the cantina. About the info of the cantina cage I did a loooot of research but since it's I think a new product it wasn't too much information about it!!

 

[Carlton]

I did a lots of researches online and I also bought a book about chameleons but the problem is that I watch a YouTube Chanel about chameleon setup and one of the bulbs that they use was a 100watt bulb with a 165 GALLON TANK and I did the same as they but with the cantina. About the info of the cantina cage I did a loooot of research but since it's I think a new product it wasn't too much information about it!!

Duwen, I'm curious...you say you did a lot of research online so I'm wondering whether our forum website came up on your searches. And, I'm also wondering why it might not have. If you can remember, what subject or term did you type into the search bars? Maybe our forum admins can figure out why we didn't come up for you. It would have saved you and your cham so much misery. BTW, many books pet shops sell are pretty out of date!

 

[Carlton]

Duwen, I'm curious...you say you did a lot of research online so I'm wondering whether our forum website came up on your searches. And, I'm also wondering why it might not have. If you can remember, what subject or term did you type into the search bars? Maybe our forum admins can figure out why we didn't come up for you. It would have saved you and your cham so much misery. BTW, many books pet shops sell are pretty out of date!

BTW, I looked up this Chameleon Cantina thing and was appalled. Not going to work for any cham unless its a plastic one that doesn't eat or drink. Why the designers think this would work very well makes me realize how clueless pet supply inventors are about live creatures. Those Bio Bubble "habitats" look like torture chambers to me.

 

[Trillian]

In case anyone else is curious, I've attached pictures of the enclosure. The fountain is a water cycling device that runs water over some plastic leaves.

Both could well be used in a healthy way for certain chameleons, but would require a LOT of tweaking by someone experienced, certainly no good as they are pictured, and definitely not for a starter kit.

They are both being sold by companies who should know better, it's very disappointing.

 

[SocialNumb]

Pretty messed up. It's like a small slow death chamber. Disturbing.

 

[OldChamKeeper]

I bought my chameleon 10 days ago from lllrpetile, he's a baby veiled.

There's your issue. They say anything to you about UVB bulbs? I was at a reptile show recently and watched one of their employees sell a cham without much info, they were so busy they really couldn't take the time and teach.

Did you happen to buy your animal at the reptile show last weekend?

 

[OldChamKeeper]

In case anyone else is curious, I've attached pictures of the enclosure. The fountain is a water cong device that runs water over some plastic leaves.

Both could well be used in a healthy way for certain chameleons, but would require a LOT of tweaking by someone experienced, certainly no good as they are pictured, and definitely not for a starter kit.

They are both being sold by companies who should know better, it's very disappointing.

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The chams will just crap in those or am I missing something from the pictures?

 

[Trillian]

The chams will just crap in those or am I missing something from the pictures?

Yep, pretty sure they will. It would work in certain situations if the owner was meticulous about cleaning daily and changing the water daily. It would work well for my shelter cham, they aren't able to set up adequate drainage for him, but he's super neglected and needs water available.

The cage looks pretty, it would probably work well for cresties, or frogs, so call it ANYTHING but a Chameleon habitat. Activate Shame Nun.

 

[leedragon]

Yep, pretty sure they will. It would work in certain situations if the owner was meticulous about cleaning daily and changing the water daily. It would work well for my shelter cham, they aren't able to set up adequate drainage for him, but he's super neglected and needs water available.

The cage looks pretty, it would probably work well for cresties, or frogs, so call it ANYTHING but a Chameleon habitat. Activate Shame Nun.

are you gonna sterilaze it everyday? clen the the pump and everything else?

 

[Trillian]

are you gonna sterilaze it everyday? clen the the pump and everything else?

For the recovering neglected cham I'm caring for at an animal shelter? Yes. For my own cham at home? No, I prefer fresh water and adequate drainage. But daily cleaning and water changes are the ONLY way to make that Chameleon Cantina even close to safe. That was my point.