Jackson Subspecies info and Photos

[Miss Lily]

I have long been confused with the differences between the 3 subspecies of Jacksons. I think it would be a great resource for people who are unsure and new owners to have some photos of all of the subspecies - male and female so that we can see how they differ. Just an idea - I would love to see pics myself to satisfy my own curiosity! I know they can be found online, but getting photos all in once place from current owners would be a lot better than surfing the net for hours!

 

[MukKu]

Captive breed　of jacksonii jacksonii

Hello,I keep a jacksonii jacksonii.
She is 8 months old.

 

[Action Jackson]

If you look at my profile for threads I've started I've posted pictures of all three sub species in the same post multiple times.

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

Here's an article on all three species including pictures showing differences and similarities: http://www.chameleonnews.com/10JulManchen.html

 

[christinecollins87]

http://www.virtualzoo.org/classifications/display.php?SpeciesID=0000000662

and i google the images i just found out my is a C.j.xantholophus

 

[Cainschams]

Hello,I keep a jacksonii jacksonii.
She is 8 months old.

Freakin sweet!!

 

[colinmelsom]

Tiff,I can help you a little bit.I have been looking at these and saw lots in Germany at the weekend.

Ours are definately xantholophus as Anita said.These are larger than the j.jacksonii,not as colourful ,have deeper bodies,and a serated crest.The females have small horns or no horns at all whereas the jacksonii females have a single horn.If you see the subspecies together there is quite a difference.

I saw one male merumontanus which looked to me like a smal T.j.jacksonii.

The thing that puzzled me was that the j.jacksonii were all sold as j.willengensis.It seems that in Europe they are sold as this subspecies but elsewhere they dont seem to be recognised.

P.m. me your email address and I will send you a photo of my male j.jacksonii and you will clearly see the difference between the two subspecies.

 

[Hoj]

Funny you bring this up. I was just looking over them all in the Tilbury book last night.
I would suggest anyone who really is into the african chams to try and get a copy. Not cheap by any means but well worth having.

 

[Miss Lily]

Tiff,I can help you a little bit.I have been looking at these and saw lots in Germany at the weekend.

Ours are definately xantholophus as Anita said.These are larger than the j.jacksonii,not as colourful ,have deeper bodies,and a serated crest.The females have small horns or no horns at all whereas the jacksonii females have a single horn.If you see the subspecies together there is quite a difference.

I saw one male merumontanus which looked to me like a smal T.j.jacksonii.

The thing that puzzled me was that the j.jacksonii were all sold as j.willengensis.It seems that in Europe they are sold as this subspecies but elsewhere they dont seem to be recognised.

P.m. me your email address and I will send you a photo of my male j.jacksonii and you will clearly see the difference between the two subspecies.

Thanks Colin, I will do that! You went to Hamm? I bet that show was amazing! Just a little too far for me though, that one!

Funny you bring this up. I was just looking over them all in the Tilbury book last night.
I would suggest anyone who really is into the african chams to try and get a copy. Not cheap by any means but well worth having.

Although the replies are helpful onthe most part, I was kind f thinking that having photos of males and females of all subspecies in one thread on here would be a useful resource. I see another thread tonight asking for a subspecies ID.

 

[colinmelsom]

Yes Tiff,I went to Hamm .Mainly to pick up some Phelsuma and Bradypodion.Its a great show,but the travelling takes it out of you.These are animals there that I have only ever seen in books and on the internet.

 

[DiF0r]

I've attached a pic of my male xantholophus around 15 months old.

more pictures and a video are here in his thread https://www.chameleonforums.com/franko-jackson-69495/index4.html

 

[Action Jackson]

He looks great.

I wonder if you could fill out the https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/ form. The reason why is I have often wondered why some Jackson's have lighter colored horns than others. I see yours has very light colored horns. If you could list the food items you give and how much you water, ie dripper,mister,humidifier etc. that would be great.

 

[DiF0r]

He looks great.

I wonder if you could fill out the https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/ form. The reason why is I have often wondered why some Jackson's have lighter colored horns than others. I see yours has very light colored horns. If you could list the food items you give and how much you water, ie dripper,mister,humidifier etc. that would be great.

I guess they look lighter colored because of the day light? When looking at him now in the terrarium the horns look much darker to me that on the picture

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Jackson Xantholophus, male, 15 months old, 10 months in my care
Handling - 5 times a week when he is up to.
Feeding - crickets, grasshopers, mealworms, flies (1-3 crickets, 1 grasshoper daily; mealworms every now and then) gutloading (carrots, salad, cricket food)
Supplements - exo terra calcium every other day, exo terra calcium + D3 twice a month, exo terra multivitamins twice a month
Watering - I mist 3-4 times a day, I offer him water every day with a pipette
Fecal Description - hard poop with white urea, no parasites (tested a month ago)

Cage Info:
Cage Type - combo of glass and screen, 1m x 1m x 0.7m
Lighting - Repti Glo 5.0/T8 18W and a heat lamp
Temperature - 77 up to 82, 73 at night
Humidity - 60%-70%, misting + Ultra-sonic cool mist humidifier
Plants - ficus benjamin
Placement - in the room corner on a desk in a quiet place
Location - Europe (Slovenia)

 

[jojothefirst]

I noticed this a while ago so researched it.
My understanding is that there was someone who illegally smuggled j.jacksonii out of Kenya which where from a region where there colour and yellow strip was much brighter. His surname was willengenis so these higher coloured j.jacksonii where advertised as this. But like you say, it seems all j.jacksonii in Europe are know known as this.
(please correct me if I'm wrong)

The thing that puzzled me was that the j.jacksonii were all sold as j.willengensis.It seems that in Europe they are sold as this subspecies but elsewhere they dont seem to be recognised.

P.m. me your email address and I will send you a photo of my male j.jacksonii and you will clearly see the difference between the two subspecies.

 

[leedragon]

important thing to keep in mind is that jacksonii xantholopus from hawaii have a mix of jacksonii jacksonii blood in them, thats is why occasionally you can see females with horns and the yellow strip on the mittle of the body, you should look at xantolophus from other parts of the world to have a better understanding of how the look like

 

[carol5208]

i know this is the internet, but it shows the three species, male and female and explains about them. http://www.geocities.ws/chamjacksonii/introduction.html

 

[leedragon]

wait what?

 

[coldbloodedAL]

important thing to keep in mind is that jacksonii xantholopus from hawaii have a mix of jacksonii jacksonii blood in them, thats is why occasionally you can see females with horns and the yellow strip on the mittle of the body, you should look at xantolophus from other parts of the world to have a better understanding of how the look like

I highly doubt this due to the more than likely incompatibility between subspecies...

Do you have any proof to back this statement?

 

[leedragon]

do you have some proof that they are more than likely incompatibility subspecies?

if you google it up or search here about jacksoniis x breed you will see that the jacksonii jacksonii can cross breed with the xant.

 

[sulfurboy1o3]

Might as well add these to the list of questions, Does anyone know how jacksons got to where they got too? Like to Hawaii or places in California, etc.
Kindly asking for stuff to read
Growing up I really only heard of them being in places in Ca. but never herping those spots myself. In Hi. there has been tons of proof by photos. How long have they been there now? Have tj xanth been there for more then 20 years?