Just a little worried.

rotarhead

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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Veiled, Male, Approx 9-10 months. Had since February.
Handling - Three times a week on average.
Feeding - Primarily crickets gutloaded with various fruits/veggies, cricket crack, and some Fluke's gutload. Also hornworms, silkworms, waxworms, and butterworms on occassion (when I have them.) Eats approximately 6-10 crickets every day to every other day.
Supplements - All Rep-Cal brand. Calcium w/ Vit D on the 8th and 22nd, Herptivite on the 1st and 29th, Calcium w/o Vit D all other feedings.
Watering - Right now spray bottle. I spray for about 5 minutes twice a day when I'm home and once a day when I work. I have a dripper as well. I do see him drink. I have an Aqua Zamp mister that I haven't set up yet (forgot to order the raindome portion). Once I get it that is what my primary water source will be.
Fecal Description - Usually black with some white but recently the white has turned a slight yellow.
Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? No
History - Got him from PetSmart in February. Started off on the wrong foot but corrected things from info throughout this site.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - 24"X24"X48" DIY screen cage.
Lighting - 5.0 Repti-Glo Flourescent Tube and 75w Repti basking spot lamp. 12 hours on, 12 hours off, on timer.
Temperature - This is where I think my problem lays. I had no issues with temps until recently. Now, the temps throughout his cage seem to stay in the range of 65-70 degree's F depending on the time of day with his basking area at 75-85 depending on how long it has been on and time of day. At night I have read his temps as low as 63.
Humidity - Humidity levels vary from 35% to 68% depending on whether or not I just misted. He has 5 live plants inside his cage and two tree's outside of it to help with the humidity.
Plants - Inside his cage is a spider plant, umbrella plant, golden pothos, and two different types of dracaena. Outside the cage but on both sides of it (and he does go on them from time to time) is a french pussy willow (salix species) and an april remembered camellia.
Placement - Cage is located in my living room. There are no TV's and we don't always use it but there is traffic which has never seemed to bother him before. No vents or fans that would blow on the cage. Top of cage sits at 5 foot 7 inches above ground.
Location - Located in Delaware

Current Problem - He has seemed very slow lately. His grip is great and if you introduce food he gobbles it all up. He is drinking still, etc. He just seems like he is in slow motion all other times and I've even caught his eyes closed at times during the day. I think the temperatures have something to do with it. He doesn't seem to be hanging out under his basking light as much though. For example: I just picked him up. He felt very cold on my hands and he was originally located at the front of the enclosure. I have now placed him under his basking light and he already seems a little more like himself. We haven't turned the heat on in the house but the A/C is off during the day. The A/C is put back on at night (I don't need it, roommate does) and it does get chilly. I have a heat lamp for him which I've had since day one and he has never been awake due to it. He at times will start off under the spider plant to sleep and in the morning before his light comes on I'll find him snoozing under the night heat lamp. Can chameleons go into a kind of hibernation state if the temperature gets too cold? Also, yes, I'm aware the slight yellowish color in his waste is a sign of slight dehydration. I will be upping his mistings to cure that and I think he will be shower bound today as well. Thanks for any help and/or reassurance that he is just fine the way he is now.
 
All Chams do slow down a bit, eat less and need to bask less as they become adults. I never kept a Jacksons so I can't reassure you about what temps/ humidity/ vitamin schedule is best for him, but if he seems healthy, and still eats his very nice variety of gutloaded stuff you're giving him I don't think you have much to worry about......do keep an eye on his possible sleeping or eye-closing in the day, because it could possibly be a sign of an eye problem but from what you say I'm inclined to put that down to your over-watchfulness..........people very rarely will have problems with a Reptisun 5.0........
 
He is a Veiled, not a Jackson. Either way, if it comes down to me just being over watchful, I can live with that. lol
 
He is a Veiled, not a Jackson. Either way, if it comes down to me just being over watchful, I can live with that. lol

How did I make that mistake.....I did read most of it properly, I promise.......:) You have nothing to worry about at all, you could raise his basking temp a few degrees if you want, but it sounds like he'd just bask less and sit elsewhere anyway......... make sure you leave droplets on his leaves after each misting, and leave him to it. He's about the same age as my boy, just a month younger, maybe. Mine has noticeably slowed himself down, and it is getting autumnal here too, keep on watching, :D
 
How did I make that mistake.....I did read most of it properly, I promise.......:) You have nothing to worry about at all, you could raise his basking temp a few degrees if you want, but it sounds like he'd just bask less and sit elsewhere anyway......... make sure you leave droplets on his leaves after each misting, and leave him to it. He's about the same age as my boy, just a month younger, maybe. Mine has noticeably slowed himself down, and it is getting autumnal here too, keep on watching, :D

It is fine. Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I appreciate the reassurance.
 
He at times will start off under the spider plant to sleep and in the morning before his light comes on I'll find him snoozing under the night heat lamp. Can chameleons go into a kind of hibernation state if the temperature gets too cold?

I wouldn't have a heat light at night. If it's really cold (below 60 degrees) then a ceramic heat bulb would be a better answer. From what I've read, it's thought that some chameleons "semi-hibernate" if it's really cold consistently, but overnight temperatures should drop to 15 to 20 degrees lower than daytime temperatures.

They sleep best when it's dark and cool.
 
Figured I would add a few pictures of him (just taken) in case somebody see's something not right. He looks healthy to me and for the first time I realize how big he really is (takes up my whole hand.) Maybe I'm just over protective or something.

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This is why his name is Moses even though we call him Moe:

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I got both sides so if there is something that sticks out, let me know. I took him off of his willow tree as he looked like he was sleeping and it took him a couple of minutes to get him active. I'm going to shower him and put him back in his cage for the day.
 
I wouldn't have a heat light at night. If it's really cold (below 60 degrees) then a ceramic heat bulb would be a better answer. From what I've read, it's thought that some chameleons "semi-hibernate" if it's really cold consistently, but overnight temperatures should drop to 15 to 20 degrees lower than daytime temperatures.

They sleep best when it's dark and cool.

I read a lot about the use of night time lights with chams and realize most everybody is against it. I have watched his actions with it since I started using it and he has grown up with it. He sleeps soundly with it on and wakes up a grumpy cham if I mess with him while he is asleep and the time it takes me to wake him I know he is sleeping sound. (I've only intentionally woke him once during a tornado warning to try and get him to safety.) Even with the lamp, his temps still drop at night.
 
He looks a big healthy boy to me.......even a bit bigger than my guy I think......all is definitely good :D
 
Wow, he is gorgeous.

If you continue to catch him with his eyes closed during the day, you might want to reconsider the night light. There are other options for adding heat at night (black bulbs and ceramic heat elements that screw into the bulb socket for example).
 
Thanks for the compliments and advice. I do appreciate all input. I probably was just overreacting, I'm sure. I put him back inside his enclosure but left the door open. He hit the heat lamp for a bit then started exploring and is now hanging half out the enclosure reaching for his willow tree, grabbing a branch and pulling it over to him, and then taking chomps out of the leaves. It just seems he has been slower lately (most of the time) but if it is normal, expecially if he is a bit cold, then that is fine with me. I just wanted to make sure, thanks again. Also, the light thing, I'll continue to watch and if I notice anything I'll switch out the heating method, thanks.
 
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