Mesh enclosure has a problem with maintaining heat and humidity, placed shrink film on 3 sides to see if that helps can I go upto a 100w for added hea

I actually gutted it yesterday, got rid of moss, and soil, and i did find a lot of sharp tiny pieces in it that I was not happy about and I was also scared of the potential for a respiratory infection from too much moisture. I like the idea of keeping the bottom bare other than live plants. I am grateful for everyone's help here, all suggestions have worked thank you all again. it's a huge help in figuring out what is right, and what's works best. I now have the cage at 85 for heat and humidity is getting much better and dropping to 65 at night. I bought the fake plants while waiting for the live ones to come in but he pretty much hated them, and I can understand why, he knows they're fake. And they dont hold water. I My actual plan was to get the set up first and get it running at optimal before I got my cham, but my boy Honzo was in a petstore, in a really bad tank basically 4x6 glass he just looked miserable. He was shedding and had basically nothing to rub on to get it off, so I got them to give him to me at a huge discount. Not ideal I know but it broke my heart to see him there. Hopefully once the other plants come in he will be much happier! I did get him to a vet for a check up, thankfully I have a reptile vet in my town. He did say he doesn't have any RI's but he did say his eye looked irritated so he gave me an antibacterial cream he said it was probably from rubbing on the vine I had trying to get the last of his shed off, and he definitely agreed with pretty much everything I was suggested here. And thank you all again for the info I will definitely be reading that. Much appreciated! This is such a great platform and community of people!
Sadly, many of us got our first chams because we saw a miserable one being badly cared for in some pet shop. So, we followed our hearts and "rescued" them. Unfortunately, that often means the pet shop has an incentive to buy more of them and treat them just as badly! And they sell them to equally clueless customers, give out a bunch of blarney care info, and let them end up dealing with a sick or dying animal...with all the inevitable vet expenses, heartbreak, and sense of guilt.

Rare is the pet shop that has the inclination, expertise or the experience to offer a healthy cham that's had the benefit of the right husbandry. Once in a while we've found a pet shop that cares enough to spend the $ to stock proper enclosures, the proper lighting, proper care references, decent supplements, or feeder insects. You were lucky they gave you a discount, Just put all this in the proper context. It's likely they'd had him for a while, but no one seemed interested. Putting together a decent cham enclosure is a big commitment of time and $. They may have wanted to cut their losses and get rid of him before his health declined and they took even more of a financial loss. I know it sounds heartless, but many of us in this community have forced ourselves not to rescue these poor little things in order to teach a shop a lesson. It can end up sparing multiple future animals a miserable, short life.

Just last year I walked into the only pet supply within a 2 hour drive and was surprised to see two juvenile veiled chameleons in the typical glass terrarium with a unknown wattage spotlight plunked on top. No live foliage to hold spray or provide cover, moss on the floor, a few crickets too large for them running around underneath. Those feeders had probably eaten nothing since being dumped in there too so all they were, were empty husks that in desperation might chew on a cham as it slept. The dumb, inaccurate thermostat sticker on the glass in a useless spot. Looked like they fell for some wholesaler's cheerful "complete cham kit with not one, but two animals for breeding!" offer. I was surprised, as this shop has seemed fairly decent about the few live animals they offer and seemed to accept their limits. Knowing what I know about their needs and how unavailable supplies would be in the surrounding area, how would anyone be able to provide decent care for these guys? They wouldn't. And, when they got sick, no vet with the experience to help. The poor little things were doomed. I found myself feeling the same old anger I'd felt years ago...all over again. Instead of giving the owner the tongue-lashing he deserved, I wrote the chameleon forum info on a slip of paper, gave my phone number if someone wanted to talk things over before taking the plunge, and walked out.

Your little guy is in much kinder hands now, and that's a good thing...for him anyway!

Sorry for the tirade. Off soapbox. Glad you're hear OP!
 
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Sadly, many of us got our first chams because we saw a miserable one being badly cared for in some pet shop. So, we followed our hearts and "rescued" them. Unfortunately, that often means the pet shop has an incentive to buy more of them and treat them just as badly! And they sell them to equally clueless customers, give out a bunch of blarney care info, and let them end up dealing with a sick or dying animal...with all the inevitable vet expenses, heartbreak, and sense of guilt.

Rare is the pet shop that has the inclination, expertise or the experience to offer a healthy cham that's had the benefit of the right husbandry. Once in a while we've found a pet shop that cares enough to spend the $ to stock proper enclosures, the proper lighting, proper care references, decent supplements, or feeder insects. You were lucky they gave you a discount, Just put all this in the proper context. It's likely they'd had him for a while, but no one seemed interested. Putting together a decent cham enclosure is a big commitment of time and $. They may have wanted to cut their losses and get rid of him before his health declined and they took even more of a financial loss. I know it sounds heartless, but many of us in this community have forced ourselves not to rescue these poor little things in order to teach a shop a lesson. It can end up sparing multiple future animals a miserable, short life.

Just last year I walked into the only pet supply within a 2 hour drive and was surprised to see two juvenile veiled chameleons in the typical glass terrarium with a unknown wattage spotlight plunked on top. No live foliage to hold spray or provide cover, moss on the floor, a few crickets too large for them running around underneath. Those feeders had probably eaten nothing since being dumped in there too so all they were, were empty husks that in desperation might chew on a cham as it slept. The dumb, inaccurate thermostat sticker on the glass in a useless spot. Looked like they fell for some wholesaler's cheerful "complete cham kit with not one, but two animals for breeding!" offer. I was surprised, as this shop has seemed fairly decent about the few live animals they offer and seemed to accept their limits. Knowing what I know about their needs and how unavailable supplies would be in the surrounding area, how would anyone be able to provide decent care for these guys? They wouldn't. And, when they got sick, no vet with the experience to help. The poor little things were doomed. I found myself feeling the same old anger I'd felt years ago...all over again. Instead of giving the owner the tongue-lashing he deserved, I wrote the chameleon forum info on a slip of paper, gave my phone number if someone wanted to talk things over before taking the plunge, and walked out.

Your little guy is in much kinder hands now, and that's a good thing...for him anyway!

Sorry for the tirade. Off soapbox. Glad you're hear OP!
I did wonder about that, it's not like they will stop selling them. Which makes me really angry. I am happy to report Honzo is coming home from the vet tomorrow and he was just dehydrated, probably for some time, he had one poop at the vet that had a hard ball followed by 2 normal ones. He gave me an antibiotic cream for his eye but he said the kept him hydrated and the eye is fine but the cream was just a precaution in case he scraped it. I got to go in and spend time with him today he was animated and happy to hang out on my shoulder and get some chin rubs. He is coming home tomorrow. I can say that I have decided to avoid petstores in general moving forward because every time I go to one I leave either sad for the animals or extremely angry or both. Thanks again to everyone, I am extremely grateful for all the advice and have been spending time reading all the resources here, hugely helpful!
 
Quick question because I can't tell, does anyone know if this has a mesh top? It looks solid to me now that I'm looking If so I may cancel this order and try to find a better option. Any thoughts on if this will work? I'm most worries about the top for my lighting.
 

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I think you can remove the colored lights on top or maybe it has a white light only option. That enclosure will work you have purchased. Much better size for little buddy! It’s the same exact one as I shared I believe, just without the bells and whistles.
 
I think you can remove the colored lights on top or maybe it has a white light only option. That enclosure will work you have purchased. Much better size for little buddy! It’s the same exact one as I shared I believe, just without the bells and whistles.
I thought so lol weĺ I'm sure this will make him much happier. Honestly he is absolutely the sweetest boy and looks so much better every day! Best thing I ever did from that stand point.
 
I thought so lol weĺ I'm sure this will make him much happier. Honestly he is absolutely the sweetest boy and looks so much better every day! Best thing I ever did from that stand point.
This is the same screen I just recently purchased too. I really like it. Honzo is one very lucky little guy! I can't remember what size your enclosure is right now but my first one was 18x18x36 and when I got this new one.. it seemed HUGE! But now that its full of sticks and plants, I can't even imagine I ever had that tiny other one!
 
This is the same screen I just recently purchased too. I really like it. Honzo is one very lucky little guy! I can't remember what size your enclosure is right now but my first one was 18x18x36 and when I got this new one.. it seemed HUGE! But now that its full of sticks and plants, I can't even imagine I ever had that tiny other one!
Yeah mine was the same size. Yeah I'm excited to build the mini king his palace! He really does deserve the best life, never seen such a sweet loving little guy.
 
For you lighting and heat bulb I HOGHLY HIGHLY recommend one of these.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/afordable-pid-dimming-thermostat.191779/#post-1793704

It's great! I never have to adjust the temp for the season and I know it's working by just watching the cage first a bit and seeing the bulb dim

As for humidity, get some govee gauges off Amazon

They are electronic and they can Bluetooth to your phone via the app and you can have trending data over time.
 
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